creating stable chaos
making patterns where there should be none
sewing order into the chaos
you spit in the face of random numbers, of chaos
anything relating to ivan you're too lazy to create a new topic for
Mar 24, 2014, 10:19 pm
Mage Prophet
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IVAN has always been dark.
Mar 24, 2014, 11:22 pm
wolf
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IVAN has always been dark.
Yeah, but it does it in the most charming way.
Mar 26, 2014, 1:16 am
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True. How many games can boast flying limbs as a main appeal?
creating stable chaos
making patterns where there should be none
sewing order into the chaos
you spit in the face of random numbers, of chaos
making patterns where there should be none
sewing order into the chaos
you spit in the face of random numbers, of chaos
Mar 30, 2014, 12:11 am
wolf
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I just found out that kneeling at an altar with '_' will give you a (very) slight increase in favor with that god.
Apr 1, 2014, 9:35 pm
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Have you tried vomiting an altar? 
Apr 3, 2014, 1:41 pm
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About the threat level and wearing vs just having in inventory:
What if I was wearing eg. armor of greater health and cloak of invisibility, but before entering a new level, I'd take them off and drop them, then descend and returned for my gear a moment later?
Will my threat level drop? Will it affect the monsters spawned for the level (the monsters spawned right after floor generation, not the new monsters spawned while I have my gear again)?
What if I was wearing eg. armor of greater health and cloak of invisibility, but before entering a new level, I'd take them off and drop them, then descend and returned for my gear a moment later?
Will my threat level drop? Will it affect the monsters spawned for the level (the monsters spawned right after floor generation, not the new monsters spawned while I have my gear again)?
Apr 4, 2014, 1:20 am
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Keep in mind that your threat level is dynamic. So yes, it will drop. Yes, it will go back up when you equip them again.
creating stable chaos
making patterns where there should be none
sewing order into the chaos
you spit in the face of random numbers, of chaos
making patterns where there should be none
sewing order into the chaos
you spit in the face of random numbers, of chaos
Apr 4, 2014, 11:06 am
The town crier
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Will my threat level drop? Will it affect the monsters spawned for the level (the monsters spawned right after floor generation, not the new monsters spawned while I have my gear again)?
Absolutely, if you're really paranoid of your danger level that's totally something you could do.
I wouldn't bother since danger level's not a big deal grumble grumble
Apr 4, 2014, 12:02 pm
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I wouldn't bother since danger level's not a big deal grumble grumble
Not that I would ever bother, too.
It just crossed my mind that it could solve that armor of greater health threat level spike problem, if anyone was interested.And one more question please: Is it possible to somehow put a non-liquid stuff inside an empty tin? I'd so much like to tin my lumps of banan flesh!
Apr 4, 2014, 5:02 pm
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You can't currently tin solids yourself, unfortunately. You can only get tinned food if it spawns like that.
I think that was on the list of things to do, or was intentional to induce actual difficulty in not starving to death while all your food items rot slowly.
I think that was on the list of things to do, or was intentional to induce actual difficulty in not starving to death while all your food items rot slowly.
System would indicate in graphic if person is mounted on horse or not. Same system also show if person mounted on boar, elephant, polar bear etc. Or if person mounted on ass. Ivan find mounting on ass funny.
Apr 4, 2014, 5:40 pm
wolf
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As I recall from another thread, in IVAN 0.40 (or one of the .4s; too lazy to check), you could dip containers and weapons into solid materials like flesh, but for whatever reason (likely what you said, 4zb4) it was removed in 0.50.
I also just realized that weeping blades in CVS spill acid on enemies; I never bothered using them before because they're always made of fairly weak materials.
I also just realized that weeping blades in CVS spill acid on enemies; I never bothered using them before because they're always made of fairly weak materials.
Apr 13, 2014, 3:49 am
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An item whose primary material has been transformed into an edible or drinkable item can be eaten or drunk, resulting in leftovers in the form of:
Also pressing the run key while polymorphed into a rooted monster produces the message "Well, well, aren't we funny today, eh?"
Though amusingly a rooted monster can still jump on the world map or travel up and down stairs.
- A stick for most weapons that use handles (e.g. spear, battle axe, hammer, whip).
- Nothing for sword weapons (e.g. dagger, short sword, bastard sword)
- Also nothing for wands, lanterns, chests etc
- A ruby stone for the Staff of Wondrous Smells.
Also pressing the run key while polymorphed into a rooted monster produces the message "Well, well, aren't we funny today, eh?"
Though amusingly a rooted monster can still jump on the world map or travel up and down stairs.
System would indicate in graphic if person is mounted on horse or not. Same system also show if person mounted on boar, elephant, polar bear etc. Or if person mounted on ass. Ivan find mounting on ass funny.
Apr 13, 2014, 4:22 am
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Is the Staff of Wondrous Smells more valuable than the ruby stone?
Apr 13, 2014, 4:43 am
Atavus
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Sometimes yes.
A ruby stone is worth the same as a teak or ebony staff of wondrous smells, but either an octiron or an arcanite staff will sell for much more.
That's because basically wood materials are worth squat.
Also totally forgot to mention I found out a while back that if you make an item emit the colour black (R=0, G=0, B=0) via the script files, the game correctly recognises it as darkness, rather than just a light that happens to be black. Which is neat.
This came up because I was trying to make a monster that actively darkens the area around it, even if lanterns or other light sources are present.
A ruby stone is worth the same as a teak or ebony staff of wondrous smells, but either an octiron or an arcanite staff will sell for much more.
That's because basically wood materials are worth squat.
Also totally forgot to mention I found out a while back that if you make an item emit the colour black (R=0, G=0, B=0) via the script files, the game correctly recognises it as darkness, rather than just a light that happens to be black. Which is neat.
This came up because I was trying to make a monster that actively darkens the area around it, even if lanterns or other light sources are present.
System would indicate in graphic if person is mounted on horse or not. Same system also show if person mounted on boar, elephant, polar bear etc. Or if person mounted on ass. Ivan find mounting on ass funny.
Apr 14, 2014, 2:59 pm
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Every monster (player included) has a defined but unused Mana attribute. I suppose it was planned to be used in a magic system? Is it used in any variant?
Also:
"I see dead people." - Necromancer
This is a reference to Sixth Sense movie. I like that film.
Also:
"I see dead people." - Necromancer
This is a reference to Sixth Sense movie. I like that film.
Apr 14, 2014, 5:07 pm
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Drinking pepsi can kill you.
Also drinking pepsi in the game does direct damage to your torso. Thankfully since you can't turn anything into pepsi in a normal game this probably isn't an issue, unless some poor soul barely beat Oree, found his pepsi and drank it, killing himself and ending a good run prematurely.
It also shifts your alignment toward chaotic.
Also drinking pepsi in the game does direct damage to your torso. Thankfully since you can't turn anything into pepsi in a normal game this probably isn't an issue, unless some poor soul barely beat Oree, found his pepsi and drank it, killing himself and ending a good run prematurely.
It also shifts your alignment toward chaotic.
System would indicate in graphic if person is mounted on horse or not. Same system also show if person mounted on boar, elephant, polar bear etc. Or if person mounted on ass. Ivan find mounting on ass funny.
Apr 15, 2014, 4:50 pm
wolf
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^Pepsi will also give you a slight perception boost, at the cost of your guruism.
Apr 15, 2014, 11:34 pm
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Every monster (player included) has a defined but unused Mana attribute. I suppose it was planned to be used in a magic system? Is it used in any variant?
Magic was planned, yes. Hell, it was supposed to be in the next version. Unfortunately, development is "deader" than this forum.
creating stable chaos
making patterns where there should be none
sewing order into the chaos
you spit in the face of random numbers, of chaos
making patterns where there should be none
sewing order into the chaos
you spit in the face of random numbers, of chaos
Apr 18, 2014, 3:04 pm
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Eating human flesh is an evil deed. However, if you are polymorphed into an inhuman form, it seems not to be taken as a cannibalism.
Apr 18, 2014, 5:43 pm
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Huh... I wonder if you're polymorphed into something else, like a wolf, and you eat another wolf, what happens?
Edit: yep!
Edit: yep!
Apr 19, 2014, 2:24 am
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Huh, so it's not human flesh in particular, it's cannibalism.
creating stable chaos
making patterns where there should be none
sewing order into the chaos
you spit in the face of random numbers, of chaos
making patterns where there should be none
sewing order into the chaos
you spit in the face of random numbers, of chaos
Apr 19, 2014, 4:39 pm
archangel
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Yeah just cannibalism.... heh.
its been so long since i had gotten that far i didnt think it through. arrrr!!!!!!
Apr 19, 2014, 5:57 pm
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So what if one of your limbs is banana flesh and you eat a banana?
Apr 19, 2014, 6:20 pm
wolf
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So what if one of your limbs is banana flesh and you eat a banana?
Limbs don't affect it, as they're secondary materials, but if the player's torso material is banana flesh...
Apr 19, 2014, 11:10 pm
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OH SHIT HERE COMES DONKEY KONG
Proudly bringing disaster and mental scarring to Attnam since '05!
"You have a rather pleasant chat about finite superarmpits with Sanae the shrine maiden."
You hear distant shuffling.
The Enner Beast tells you to COOL IT!!
"You have a rather pleasant chat about finite superarmpits with Sanae the shrine maiden."
You hear distant shuffling.
The Enner Beast tells you to COOL IT!!