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Dec 14, 2008, 9:37 am
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Wow. Can you imagine someone like Slob killing and resurrecting Sherarax with golden eagle feather limbs as a pet? Damn.
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Dec 14, 2008, 11:26 am
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Nice work 4zb4. I think that socm for monster's limbs could definitely come in handy
Dec 14, 2008, 4:35 pm
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Thanks.

Even a kobold with artificial limbs can come in handy even outside of WM if you have the SoCM and wand.
Of course, the hardest part is getting the limbs off in the first place, which may pose a problem with Shererax...
System would indicate in graphic if person is mounted on horse or not.
Same system also show if person mounted on boar, elephant, polar bear etc.
Or if person mounted on ass.
Ivan find mounting on ass funny.
Dec 14, 2008, 4:53 pm
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EDIT: SUCCESS!!
*Any monster that had its limbs cut off in battle and died can be resurrected with that limb using the wand of resurrection. Since it uses THAT LIMB instead of growing a new one when it is resurrected, you can successfully SoCM the limb and place it back on the body to resurrected, say, a kobold with a adamantine arm! This is still to be tested with a wand of necromancy.

Can I hear a mad scientist style laugh? You certainly should have one

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EDIT2: Also found out you can use a scroll of repair to heal artificial limbs

Yep, but they don't heal automatically, and I'm not sure about potions of healing.
Dec 14, 2008, 9:38 pm
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chaostrom wrote
Wow. Can you imagine someone like Slob killing and resurrecting Sherarax with golden eagle feather limbs as a pet? Damn.

Unfortunately sherarax is untameable. She would still be my enemy. It might be fun though to fight Super Sherry!!!. I could do it to Ivan though, but probably the best use would be with an elite guard after I've had him folow me all the way through GC and build weapons skills. Actually a mistres warlady with twin GEF whips of theivery would be pretty kickass too. I will take this as a challeng and do it legit in the new year. My goal - to get an artificial limbed pet and have him/her slaughter attnam and kill petrus.

Edit. Oh yeah its easy to delimb Sherry - a row of valpurium bear traps does the trick.
Dec 14, 2008, 10:46 pm
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slob wrote
Edit. Oh yeah its easy to delimb Sherry - a row of valpurium bear traps does the trick.

Last I checked, valpurium bear traps cause limbs to "vanish" after being cut off. I tested this whilst trying to get my artificial limbs thing to work. This was of course in 0.50 so I dunno about any other versions.

EDIT: Found out corpses make pretty decent weapons. A large spider corpse can easily 1 hit kill most of the starting UT enemies. Unfortunately, you will almost certainly have to use them with both hands because every one I tried using one-handed said I needed 1000+ arm strength...
System would indicate in graphic if person is mounted on horse or not.
Same system also show if person mounted on boar, elephant, polar bear etc.
Or if person mounted on ass.
Ivan find mounting on ass funny.
Dec 15, 2008, 3:10 am
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no only golems limbs vanish... but its been about 6 months since ive actually played any ivan.
Dec 15, 2008, 3:17 am
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Ok so I tested in 0.50 and LIVAN.
In 0.50, your limbs vanish if cut off by valpurium.
In LIVAN they do not vanish.

Strange, no?
System would indicate in graphic if person is mounted on horse or not.
Same system also show if person mounted on boar, elephant, polar bear etc.
Or if person mounted on ass.
Ivan find mounting on ass funny.
Dec 15, 2008, 4:05 am
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sorry i didn't get those results 4zb4. Valpurium traps don't cause limbs to vanish
Dec 15, 2008, 5:26 pm
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Oh right I thought about it yesterday and its only artificial limbs that vanish once removed.
My bad.
System would indicate in graphic if person is mounted on horse or not.
Same system also show if person mounted on boar, elephant, polar bear etc.
Or if person mounted on ass.
Ivan find mounting on ass funny.
Dec 15, 2008, 7:03 pm
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Are you sure you weren't a golem? Golem limbs always vanish when removed.
"Put more stuff in the... thing where... more stuff goes in."
Dec 15, 2008, 11:11 pm
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I'm absolutely sure. I had adamant legs at the time. I'll go take a screenshot the next time it happens.

EDIT: Ok, so it seems it was the result of either me or my brother messing with the script a long time ago. It made it so that anything made of valpurium makes whatever is severed by it disappear.
I found this out because I re-downloaded 0.50 and replaced the script, then tested it.

So sorry, false alarm
System would indicate in graphic if person is mounted on horse or not.
Same system also show if person mounted on boar, elephant, polar bear etc.
Or if person mounted on ass.
Ivan find mounting on ass funny.
Dec 16, 2008, 11:22 am
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Discovered something today: Negatively enchanted boots decrease your kick power.
Dec 16, 2008, 7:34 pm
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The blacksmith in Attnam can fix rusty weapons...
Considering he only has an anvil and a hammer, how is he supposed to do this?

EDIT: Just found out using 4 letters at a time from "Saal'thul" (the short sword) you can make the words "lust" "lush" "slut" and "hall"
...which is very suspicious seeing as it's a dagger that makes you invisible...
System would indicate in graphic if person is mounted on horse or not.
Same system also show if person mounted on boar, elephant, polar bear etc.
Or if person mounted on ass.
Ivan find mounting on ass funny.
Dec 17, 2008, 11:16 am
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is it possible to negatively enchant weapons or reduce their enchantment?
Dec 17, 2008, 12:41 pm
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EDIT: Just found out using 4 letters at a time from "Saal'thul" (the short sword) you can make the words "lust" "lush" "slut" and "hall"
...which is very suspicious seeing as it's a dagger that makes you invisible...

Interesting
Dec 17, 2008, 7:00 pm
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Batman? wrote
is it possible to negatively enchant weapons or reduce their enchantment?

Only by fighting mages and darkfrogs but its pretty random. I often find highly disenchated items, I once found a -11 runed whip.
Dec 28, 2008, 5:29 pm
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The corpse of a slave costs 70 gold at 10 charisma, which makes it worth more than the poor guy alive

(I found out by releasing an angry genie inside the shop)
Dec 29, 2008, 11:43 am
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That's pretty funny Cerumen
Dec 30, 2008, 7:43 am
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Also, for those who know the sirens from CVS - only recently I found out that they can steal your equipment and use it against you. Not as annoying as teleporting your items away, but it's a pretty nice gameplay mechanic.
Jul 25, 2009, 3:59 am
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As noted on page 4 of this thread, it is possible to polymorph altars of gods into those of other gods. However:

1. Do not waste a charge on polymorphing just the altar, you can put 4 items on top of it (the altar seems to count as a 5th item)

2. It appears that altars are more prone to changing into altars of gods of the same alignment (during the test, the altar of Cruentus changed into -> Infuscor -> Mortifer -> Scabies -> Cruentus -> Mellis).
Uchuudonge wrote
creating stable chaos
making patterns where there should be none
sewing order into the chaos
you spit in the face of random numbers, of chaos
Jul 26, 2009, 8:58 am
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Hang on a sec. Remember how citrine limbs heal? Apparently rose quartz does too.
Uchuudonge wrote
creating stable chaos
making patterns where there should be none
sewing order into the chaos
you spit in the face of random numbers, of chaos
Jul 26, 2009, 11:33 pm
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chaostrom wrote
Hang on a sec. Remember how citrine limbs heal? Apparently rose quartz does too.

Although it has absolutely nothing to do with the game, I happen to have a lump of raw rose quartz, and it has "veins" through it.
System would indicate in graphic if person is mounted on horse or not.
Same system also show if person mounted on boar, elephant, polar bear etc.
Or if person mounted on ass.
Ivan find mounting on ass funny.
Jul 27, 2009, 2:13 am
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Well, further on it didn't heal, so I dunno what's up with rose quartz.
Uchuudonge wrote
creating stable chaos
making patterns where there should be none
sewing order into the chaos
you spit in the face of random numbers, of chaos
Aug 1, 2009, 1:38 am
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Well, I thought I found something very neat, but it was actually something else which is still neat but not as neat as what I thought it was: archangels can survive beheading (once, in a similar manner to the way a character survives when killed while wearing the amulet of lifesaving, which basically means they have the power of complete lifesaving).
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