new way to kill the enner

Jan 28, 2011, 10:41 pm

#1

The Imperialist

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Finally a good character.

The enner beast was right near the staircase. I hit him with a wand of striking which went *through* him and into the kamikaze dwarf behind him, causing the dwarf to explode! The combination of strike + explosion destroyed the enner's head and finished him off in one go!

Other highlights so far...
Xinroch didn't stand a chance. My mithril halberd +5 shattered his armor and sword.

Golgor Dhan is lurking around GC5 now... I saw him in GC6, ran upstairs but he followed.

Right now I'm trying to get Ne'erc Seulb just for the heck of it. Cruentus is extremely pleased with me but I haven't found Mortifer's altar (might polymorph one).

I really need to learn a different way to beat this game though... I always use halberds. I haven't found Mjolak or any way to wish for it yet though. I'm going to try to go natural limbs for the first time though.

Jan 28, 2011, 11:10 pm

#2

Mage Prophet

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If you want to try something other than halberds, I can tell you that two-handed scimitars will play similarly. They also deal more damage than halberds, and you can wield one single-handedly more easily than a halberd.

Uchuudonge wrote

creating stable chaos
making patterns where there should be none
sewing order into the chaos
you spit in the face of random numbers, of chaos

Jan 29, 2011, 2:34 am

#3

angel

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Whips of thievery. Enchant one to + 10 or more and change it to GEF or spider silk then clone it.

I also like a whip shield combo or a sword shield combo.
vermis shield combo
vermis/whip combo
dual wielded swords either scimitars or flaming
dual vermis

I've never played with mjolak - it doesn't align with my gods but dual wielded valpurium or diamond halberds are ok

Jan 29, 2011, 5:13 am

#4

Ex-Tyrant of the IVANers

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Or, you could do like my win, and get twin Neerc se'Ulb...

"Put more stuff in the... thing where... more stuff goes in."

Jan 29, 2011, 5:56 am

#5

Atavus

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Somehow I always find myself dual-wielding either daggers, short swords or sickles. Or a combination. Not sure it's that effective however it's what I was using on my best game.
Also sulphuric acid and whips, due to something I believe Izzy said some time.

Oh, and has anyone tried SoCMing a (big) mine to be enner proof? Seems an awful waste but if it's going to kill him before he kills you then it's worth a shot. Or am I talking nonsense and mines actually can't be exploded by the enner's screams, unlike in my foggy memories of having tried killing it with one because a guard in Attnam inspired me?

System would indicate in graphic if person is mounted on horse or not.
Same system also show if person mounted on boar, elephant, polar bear etc.
Or if person mounted on ass.
Ivan find mounting on ass funny.

Jan 29, 2011, 4:26 pm

#6

Ex-Tyrant of the IVANers

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4zb4 wrote

Also sulphuric acid and whips, due to something I believe Izzy said some time.

That was me. Long ago, when I used to code and was doing some script work in IVAN (it was for the Acid Shield, which as I recall the devs were going to implement but never got around to), I discovered that unlike virtually every other item (and certainly every other weapon) in the game, whips do not have a "broken" state -- thus they can't be destroyed. Which means a whip dipped in acid can be a formidable hit-and-run weapon.

"Put more stuff in the... thing where... more stuff goes in."

Jan 29, 2011, 7:23 pm

#7

The Imperialist

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This is probably one of my best characters yet. Even if he doesn't win, I've never done this well before.

AStr 42, LStr 30, Dex 25, Agi 22, End 20, Per 48, Int 36, Wis 32, Cha 13
Perma-ESP and Perma-Telecontrol
Killed Ur-Khan easily, Golgor Dhan with many strikes until he was missing one leg and exchanged one of his weapons for a broken long sword.
Also has killed multiple valpurium, ommel, octiron golems.

Right now I'm dual-wielding halberds, one mithril and one ruby. Still no sign of Mjolak

But I did get Ne'erc Se'ulb

Jan 29, 2011, 9:52 pm

#8

Mage Prophet

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Ischaldirh wrote

(it was for the Acid Shield, which as I recall the devs were going to implement but never got around to)

It's in the CVS.

Uchuudonge wrote

creating stable chaos
making patterns where there should be none
sewing order into the chaos
you spit in the face of random numbers, of chaos

Jan 30, 2011, 4:28 am

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#chaostrom: Is it really? I thought it was missing...

#capristo: Dual wielding halberds. That's pretty impressive, and is something I've tried for repeatedly. Usually died long before (something about not being able to hit things with halberds, I dunno...)

"Put more stuff in the... thing where... more stuff goes in."

Jan 30, 2011, 5:23 am

#10

Atavus

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I found one in CVS Izzy, just to confirm. They're incredibly rare though, I thought it was just a regular old arcanite shield I found on the floor.

System would indicate in graphic if person is mounted on horse or not.
Same system also show if person mounted on boar, elephant, polar bear etc.
Or if person mounted on ass.
Ivan find mounting on ass funny.

Jan 30, 2011, 6:20 pm

#11

angel

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All this makes me wanna stop studying and play IVAN! Brbivan

A cool way of killing the enner is throwing depleted wands of fireballs! I mentioned that sometime before on IRC I think

Well I assume that a bolt has a given, numeric, amouunt of perwer. (assi in enegri)... unless it's LAERSER SKISKLS POEWN PEWN!

Jan 30, 2011, 8:59 pm

#12

The Imperialist

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He died

155,000 points. Orc generals were starting to spawn with +7 mithril halberds and a zombie picked one up and killed him. Was down to GC8.

Jan 30, 2011, 9:16 pm

#13

Caped Crusader

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Hmmmmm throwing the wands causes them to explode?

Booooooooooo!

Jan 31, 2011, 3:22 am

#14

archangel

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Batman? wrote

Hmmmmm throwing the wands causes them to explode?

No, but Enners' scream does.

Beware! 'tis EagleV, Hardcore Weaver of Baskets!

Jan 31, 2011, 7:39 am

#15

Mage Prophet

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What?

Uchuudonge wrote

creating stable chaos
making patterns where there should be none
sewing order into the chaos
you spit in the face of random numbers, of chaos

Jan 31, 2011, 9:20 am

#16

angel

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If You land a wand near the enner or hit him with it (which turns out the same), his scream is sure to make it explode. And with 20+ arm strength, it will go far, and with 30+ dexterity, it will surely hit.

Well I assume that a bolt has a given, numeric, amouunt of perwer. (assi in enegri)... unless it's LAERSER SKISKLS POEWN PEWN!

Jan 31, 2011, 10:27 am

#17

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I'm just testing it now. Enner can't make wands explode, which is what I initially thought, hence my "what?" post above. It'll break from you throwing it, but not from Enner. I'm positive on this one because Enner spawned right on top of a wand of lightning and it still hasn't broken after 100+ turns.

Jan 31, 2011, 11:01 am

#18

archangel

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Ah, I'm sorry. I always assumed it could break anything breakable.

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Jan 31, 2011, 11:53 am

#19

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And I thought both possibilities were the case!

Well I assume that a bolt has a given, numeric, amouunt of perwer. (assi in enegri)... unless it's LAERSER SKISKLS POEWN PEWN!

Jan 31, 2011, 4:20 pm

#20

Atavus

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Correct me if i'm wrong, but i'm reasonably certain that wands lying on the floor cannot be broken - only ones in your inventory.
Either that or the situation has never arisen to me. But Al's right, if the wand breaks upon impact it explodes.

System would indicate in graphic if person is mounted on horse or not.
Same system also show if person mounted on boar, elephant, polar bear etc.
Or if person mounted on ass.
Ivan find mounting on ass funny.

Jan 31, 2011, 11:28 pm

#21

Mage Prophet

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Tested. Enner can't break wands. At all. No matter where they are.

Uchuudonge wrote

creating stable chaos
making patterns where there should be none
sewing order into the chaos
you spit in the face of random numbers, of chaos

Feb 2, 2011, 12:29 am

#22

kobold lord

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I thought it was common knowledge that enner beasts can only break glass objects

Feb 2, 2011, 5:06 am

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gibberling

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And flesh objects as well. His screams also does trigger mines to explode, but only those active. If someone have much Agi he should be able to teleport near Enner, deploy a mine, drop some backpacks, wands or whatever and GET THE HECK OUT in between Beast screams

Feb 2, 2011, 6:47 am

#24

The Imperialist

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Well, I'm going for a mace win now. I used to think I was good at this game, but I've learned a lot recently. The perma-ESP and Telecontrol are coming in very handy (I have perma-ESP from eating floating eyes but I'm also wearing the amulet since I didn't find a life-saving one). Also, after a certain point a ring is enough to protect you from fire, and an electricity resistant cloak is way more important. Multiple lyres of charm are very useful for taming tons of giant dark frogs and getting a big Int boost.

A couple questions...

- I won Neerc Se'ulb off of Mortifer and tried cloning it but I guess it can't be cloned. Is it possible to get 2 from Mortifer? I'm still in good standing with him and I have a stash of crystal skulls that should make me his champion again pretty quickly
- Also, slob, how much Int do I need to change stuff into valpurium/golden eagle feather? On the materials page on the wiki it says I need 50 to "harden" but nothing hardens into them.

Feb 2, 2011, 7:07 am

#25

The Imperialist

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Update: I just meleed Elpuri to death. Should I go on? hmmm