new way to kill the enner

You need 55 int. Its always 5 more than the harden int. You can get two champion prizes from th same god but you have to wait 2.5 days maybe 3 cant remember for the timer to reset.

there is a 6 hour cooldown for lyres of charm.

Thanks for the specific numbers slob.

So what the rest of you are saying is that it's best to get past Jenny without killing her, so that she can spawn plants to train your Dex later? Hmm.

So how do I get past Jenny without a wand of teleport? I think this has been discussed before

You don't have to save jenny. Just have her spawn some plants around you in some room and then don't kill them. You can go back and whip them with peels whenever you want, you will probably never do enough damage to accidently kill them.

Also you can kill her now and revive later if you want.

Ohh, I see. Thanks

Well, there are many ways to move Genetrix, which is the best option. When using a troll hide cloak to train strength against plants you will eventually kill them and therefore, need them respawning around you.

An easy way to move her is by praying to Silva, causing an earthquake that moves her to another location. If you don't know Silva by the time you explored the UT, there is a guaranteed altar of Silva in UT4, but note that it's risky due to the golems there. So you would have to rush for that altar or if you have a SoDM, detect it's material which I don't remember right now. You can also get a book of Silva from Kaethos the village elder, killing him by putting banana peels on his way. This should be your last option as you won't be able to sci-talk with him when requirements are met, which helps a lot. Also, sometimes when you are confused and you pray, your rituals can go wrong and pray to another deity, there you have another chance to pray to Silva. Polymorphing her is another way. There might be other means that I don't remember right now that can also work.

Myself, I always kick fat-ass in town for Levitation Belt end enter thirt level from the wrong end, Jenny is forced to be moved into a random room, leaving both exits from UT3 accesible.

I know the topic has already passed but I have 2 counts of encountering random beds like those found in the wives' room in Attnam sitting in the middle of a room in UT. And there were no eddies at all.
When I smashed it with a pickaxe it dropped a gold stone, but I think that's the typical drop for breaking furniture anyway.

Maybe something else killed the eddy? Although UT seems too early for eddies to appear, unless you were returning after going to GC

Myself, I always kick fat-ass in town for Levitation Belt end enter thirt level from the wrong end, Jenny is forced to be moved into a random room, leaving both exits from UT3 accesible.

- is there an easy way to do this? I have a hard time getting the belt in most games.

Banana peels for DEX, a bit of unarmed training and dissolving Pong's legs with vomit. Works almost every time. Just make sure to enter the arena before he dies.

Wait, so I need to train dex with banana peels, defeat the sumo, fly to the continent, and enter UT3 from there so I can train dex with banana peels?

That's how I'd do it anyways. Though I'm too lazy to actually return to UT3 for more DEX training, and prefer getting all the stat boosts I can before leaving UT in the first place.

how do I dissolve his legs with vomit?

Lure him out of the house with bananas or just wait for him to move to eat the three bananas one of the growers keeps bringing to him. It's easier if you lure him out yourself, since there's more time to vomit.

Locking him outside of his house is a good way to keep him in one place too (although this requires the use of a wand of door creation).
Also, someone should try luring him to the banana drop site.

But then you're hungry from all the throwing up

Sumo: Vomit (bananas are free - kick them off the ostrich landing zone) in front of door many times (abuses AStr and LStr) or throw a bottle of acid at the door, or pile some bear traps in front of door (works well if you know loricatus to fix/harden traps), and or haste yourself for fight, or fight as werewolf, or train AStr + Dex in UT to 15 each for simple win.

If you use the bear trap method and happen to have some good traps (eg meteoric steel or better ) you can also kill Decos. He comes to watch the fight so line his path with traps. pray to loricatus to fix you best broken trap. just kee reusing them once he escapes. if he loses a couple legs then he is easily killed by bear traps. Rolling Richel

I should add this is worthwhile for two mithril boots of kicking, a mithril chain mail and two ommel hair whips +3. Plus gems

That seems kind of exploity though.

It is exploit-y. Also belongs in Tips Tricks and Secrets.

This thread as a whole would belong more into Tips, Tricks and Secrets now, there's a whole lot of spoiler-y stuff.

Done.

Remember to eat spiders for END before facing muang ping some-thing dude, with 14 END he is sooooo easy.

If you do decide to eat a spider do it in the overword, that way you wont barf.


Also hung pong is really easy as long as you stick to the bananna peels though most of UT. Then when you get to UT3 switch to you fists and punch a greater plant a bit until your unarmed gets around 7-10(it's pretty fast). At that point you should be fine.

Greater carnivorous plants are generally good if you are undecided for any weapon style - just pick stuff from all categories and raise them to ~7

And when you find a cool weapon in GC/change the material of your weapon of choice, you can back off to UT to get a grip on it.