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If it is missing a symbol, then that stat is still increased, just not a lot. It's organized first by location then by requirements. Format is (how much it increases intelligence) (how much it increases wisdom) Name of character | intelligence requirement for science talk / wisdom requirement for science talk:
 
If it is missing a symbol, then that stat is still increased, just not a lot. It's organized first by location then by requirements. Format is (how much it increases intelligence) (how much it increases wisdom) Name of character | intelligence requirement for science talk / wisdom requirement for science talk:
  
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Note: Tamed enemies are better for intelligence than wisdom.
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:Note: Tamed enemies are better for intelligence than wisdom.
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Note: The librarian is good for intelligence, and the frogs are good for wisdom (but have high requirements).
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:Note: The librarian is good for intelligence, and the frogs are good for wisdom (but have high requirements).
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Note: The banana growers are good but have a pretty low chance of talking. Kaethos the village elder is awesome. Richel Decos the imperialist has a 15 charisma requirement and improves charisma (barely).
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:Note: The banana growers are good but have a pretty low chance of talking. Kaethos the village elder is awesome. Richel Decos the imperialist has a 15 charisma requirement and improves charisma (barely).
  
 
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! width="75"|Int Gain
 
! width="75"|Wis Gain
 
! width="75"|Wis Gain
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! width="200"|Name
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! width="200"|Name of character
 
! width="75"|Int Req
 
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| colspan="5" style="background:#ccc"|Tunnels/Caves
 
| colspan="5" style="background:#ccc"|Tunnels/Caves
 
|-
 
|-
−
|  ||  || Orc || 3 || 3
+
|  ||  || [[Orc]] || 3 || 3
 
|-
 
|-
−
|  ||  || Mistress || 6 || 3
+
|  ||  || [[Mistress]] || 6 || 3
 
|-
 
|-
−
|  ||  || Apprentice Necromancer || 10 || 5
+
|  ||  || [[Necromancer|Apprentice Necromancer]] || 10 || 5
 
|-
 
|-
−
| + ||  || Apprentice Dark Mage || 10 || 5
+
| + ||  || [[Apprentice Dark Mage]] || 10 || 5
 
|-
 
|-
−
| + ||  || Dark Frog || 10 || 5
+
| + ||  || [[Dark Frog]] || 10 || 5
 
|-
 
|-
−
| ++ || # || Greater Dark Frog || 15 || 10
+
| ++ || # || [[Greater Dark Frog]] || 15 || 10
 
|-
 
|-
−
| ++ ||# || Dark Battlemage || 15 || 10
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| ++ ||# || [[Dark Battlemage]] || 15 || 10
 
|-
 
|-
−
| +++ || ## || Master Necromancer || 20 || 10
+
| +++ || ## || [[Necromancer|Master Necromancer]] || 20 || 10
 
|-
 
|-
−
| +++ || ## || Giant Dark Frog || 20 || 15
+
| +++ || ## || [[Giant Dark Frog]] || 20 || 15
 
|-
 
|-
−
| ++++ || ### || Mystic Dark Frog || 25 || 15
+
| ++++ || ### || [[Mystic Dark Frog]] || 25 || 15
 
|-
 
|-
−
| ++++ || ### || Elder Dark Mage || 35 || 25
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| ++++ || ### || [[Elder Dark Mage]] || 35 || 25
 
|-
 
|-
−
| colspan="5" style="background:#ccc"|Attnam
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| colspan="5" style="background:#ccc"| [[Attnam]]
 
|-
 
|-
−
|  ||  || Hunter || 6 || 3
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|  ||  || [[Hunter]] || 6 || 3
 
|-
 
|-
−
|  || # || Farmer || 10 || 10
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|  || # || [[Farmer]] || 10 || 10
 
|-
 
|-
−
|  ||  || Light Frog || 5 || 15
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|  ||  || [[Light Frog]] || 5 || 15
 
|-
 
|-
−
| ++++ || ## || Librarian || 20 || 10
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| ++++ || ## || [[Haathbar]] the librarian || 20 || 10
 
|-
 
|-
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|  || # || Greater Light Frog || 10 || 20
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|  || # || [[Greater Light Frog]] || 10 || 20
 
|-
 
|-
−
| + || ## || Giant Light Frog || 15 || 25
+
| + || ## || [[Giant Light Frog]] || 15 || 25
 
|-
 
|-
−
| ++ || ### || Mystic Light Frog || 20 || 30
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| ++ || ### || [[Mystic Light Frog]] || 20 || 30
 
|-
 
|-
−
| ++++++ || ###### || Female Dolphin in Season || 50 || 50
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| ++++++ || ###### || [[Female Dolphin in Season]] || 50 || 50
 
|-
 
|-
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| colspan="5" style="background:#ccc"|New Attnam
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| colspan="5" style="background:#ccc"| [[New Attnam]]
 
|-
 
|-
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| + || ## || Banana Grower || 5 || 10
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| + || ## || [[Banana Grower]] || 5 || 10
 
|-
 
|-
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| ++ || *** || Imperialist || 10 || 0/15
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| ++ || *** <span title="Charisma">(Cha)</span> || [[Richel Decos]] the imperialist || 10 || 15 <span title="Charisma">(Cha)</span>
 
|-
 
|-
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| +++ || #### || Village Elder || 10 || 15
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| +++ || #### || [[Kaethos]] the village elder || 10 || 15
 
|-
 
|-
 
| colspan="5" style="background:#ccc"|Friends
 
| colspan="5" style="background:#ccc"|Friends
 
|-
 
|-
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|  ||  || Puppy || 3 || 4
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|  ||  || [[Puppy]] || 3 || 4
 
|-
 
|-
−
| + || ## || Ivan || 3 || 3
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| + || ## || [[Ivan]] || 3 || 3
 
|-
 
|-
−
| ++ || #### || Angel || 10 || 20
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| ++ || #### || [[Angel]] || 10 || 20
 
|-
 
|-
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| +++ || ##### || Archangel || 20 || 40
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| +++ || ##### || [[Angel|Archangel]] || 20 || 40
 
|}
 
|}
  
 
So a general progression would be (some areas overlap):
 
So a general progression would be (some areas overlap):
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10-20 int/wis: Talk to losers (banana growers, dog, mistresses, farmers, etc.), read holy books and simple scrolls, and sacrifice.
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*10-20 int/wis: Talk to losers (banana growers, dog, mistresses, farmers, etc.), read holy books and simple scrolls, and sacrifice.
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15 wis: Talk to Kaethos, he's awesome.
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*15 wis: Talk to Kaethos, he's awesome.
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20 int: Talk to Haathbar (the librarian), he's super.
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*20 int: Talk to Haathbar (the librarian), he's super.
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20-30 wis: Talk to the light frogs in the cathedral.
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*20-30 wis: Talk to the light frogs in the cathedral.
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20-40 wis: Talk to angels (keep offering items to extremely pleased gods; an offering may spawn an angel. Since even cheap items work, sacrifice everything.)
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*20-40 wis: Talk to angels (keep offering items to extremely pleased gods; an offering may spawn an angel. Since even cheap items work, sacrifice everything.)
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10-20-25-35 int: Tame and chat with dungeon monsters. Make friends with mages, necromancers, and frogs, especially the mystical dark ones.
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*10-20-25-35 int: Tame and chat with dungeon monsters. Make friends with mages, necromancers, and frogs, especially the mystical dark ones.
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40+ wisdom: Spawn an archangel and she'll kick up your wisdom another four points. Spawn another, this is hard.
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*40+ wisdom: Spawn an archangel and she'll kick up your wisdom another four points. Spawn another, this is hard.
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50 int / 50 wis : Chat with all the dolphins in the cathedral. I've never done this in a real game, but I just tried it in wizard mode and it boosted my int/wis from 50 to the 80's. Holy ****.
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*50 int / 50 wis : Chat with all the dolphins in the cathedral. I've never done this in a real game, but I just tried it in wizard mode and it boosted my int/wis from 50 to the 80's. Holy ****.
  
 
For a general idea of how much of an increase you can expect from a given creature:
 
For a general idea of how much of an increase you can expect from a given creature:
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*2 stars ~ 1/2 point
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2 stars ~ 1/2 point
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*3 stars ~ 1 point
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3 stars ~ 1 point
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*4 stars ~ 2 points
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4 stars ~ 2 points
 

Revision as of 17:35, 22 July 2011

Spoiler Warning: This page contains spoilers which may affect your IVAN experience negatively


Science-talking is when you talk to a character and it randomly generates a conversation which eventually improves intelligence and wisdom. The character must be friendly or tame.

If it is missing a symbol, then that stat is still increased, just not a lot. It's organized first by location then by requirements. Format is (how much it increases intelligence) (how much it increases wisdom) Name of character | intelligence requirement for science talk / wisdom requirement for science talk:

Note: Tamed enemies are better for intelligence than wisdom.
Note: The librarian is good for intelligence, and the frogs are good for wisdom (but have high requirements).
Note: The banana growers are good but have a pretty low chance of talking. Kaethos the village elder is awesome. Richel Decos the imperialist has a 15 charisma requirement and improves charisma (barely).
Int Gain Wis Gain Name of character Int Req Wis Req
Tunnels/Caves
Orc 3 3
Mistress 6 3
Apprentice Necromancer 10 5
+ Apprentice Dark Mage 10 5
+ Dark Frog 10 5
++ # Greater Dark Frog 15 10
++ # Dark Battlemage 15 10
+++ ## Master Necromancer 20 10
+++ ## Giant Dark Frog 20 15
++++ ### Mystic Dark Frog 25 15
++++ ### Elder Dark Mage 35 25
Attnam
Hunter 6 3
# Farmer 10 10
Light Frog 5 15
++++ ## Haathbar the librarian 20 10
# Greater Light Frog 10 20
+ ## Giant Light Frog 15 25
++ ### Mystic Light Frog 20 30
++++++ ###### Female Dolphin in Season 50 50
New Attnam
+ ## Banana Grower 5 10
++ *** (Cha) Richel Decos the imperialist 10 15 (Cha)
+++ #### Kaethos the village elder 10 15
Friends
Puppy 3 4
+ ## Ivan 3 3
++ #### Angel 10 20
+++ ##### Archangel 20 40

So a general progression would be (some areas overlap):

  • 10-20 int/wis: Talk to losers (banana growers, dog, mistresses, farmers, etc.), read holy books and simple scrolls, and sacrifice.
  • 15 wis: Talk to Kaethos, he's awesome.
  • 20 int: Talk to Haathbar (the librarian), he's super.
  • 20-30 wis: Talk to the light frogs in the cathedral.
  • 20-40 wis: Talk to angels (keep offering items to extremely pleased gods; an offering may spawn an angel. Since even cheap items work, sacrifice everything.)
  • 10-20-25-35 int: Tame and chat with dungeon monsters. Make friends with mages, necromancers, and frogs, especially the mystical dark ones.
  • 40+ wisdom: Spawn an archangel and she'll kick up your wisdom another four points. Spawn another, this is hard.
  • 50 int / 50 wis : Chat with all the dolphins in the cathedral. I've never done this in a real game, but I just tried it in wizard mode and it boosted my int/wis from 50 to the 80's. Holy ****.

For a general idea of how much of an increase you can expect from a given creature:

  • 2 stars ~ 1/2 point
  • 3 stars ~ 1 point
  • 4 stars ~ 2 points
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