Science Talking

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Science-talking is the act of talking to a monster and engaging in a conversation with it, which eventually improves your intelligence and wisdom. The monster must be friendly or tame. Most monsters can be used for science talking, but the more intelligent they are the more higher stats you must have to make them have a talk with you.

Whom To Talk To

The following table sums up the most common monsters requirements and attribute gains.

Int Gain	Wis Gain	Name of character	Int Req	Wis Req
Underwater Tunnels/Gloomy Caves
		Orc	3	3
		Mistress	6	3
		Apprentice Necromancer	10	5
+		Apprentice Dark Mage	10	5
+		Dark Frog	10	5
++	#	Greater Dark Frog	15	10
++	#	Dark Battlemage	15	10
+++	##	Master Necromancer	20	10
+++	##	Giant Dark Frog	20	15
++++	###	Mystic Dark Frog	25	15
++++	###	Elder Dark Mage	35	25
Attnam
		Hunter	6	3
	#	Farmer	10	10
		Light Frog	5	15
++++	##	Haathbar the librarian	20	10
	#	Greater Light Frog	10	20
+	##	Giant Light Frog	15	25
++	###	Mystic Light Frog	20	30
++++++	######	Female Dolphin in Season	50	50
New Attnam
+	##	Banana Grower	5	10
++	*** (Cha)	Richel Decos the imperialist	10	15 (Cha)
+++	####	Kaethos the village elder	10	15
Friends
		Puppy	3	4
+	##	Ivan	3	3
++	####	Angel	10	20
+++	#####	Archangel	20	40

For a general idea of how much of an increase you can expect from a given creature:

• 2 stars ~ 1/2 point
• 3 stars ~ 1 point
• 4 stars ~ 2 points

Creatures with no stars still increase your attributes, but with rather negligible results.

How To Do It

So a general progression could be as follows (note that some areas overlap):

• 10-20 int/wis: Talk to losers (banana growers, dog, mistresses, farmers, etc.), read holy books and simple scrolls, sacrifice and pray.

• 15 wis: Talk to Kaethos, he's awesome.

• 20 int: Talk to Haathbar, he's awsome as well.

• 20-30 wis: Talk to the light frogs in the cathedral.

• 20-40 wis: Talk to angels - keep offering items to get extremely pleased gods; any offering may spawn an angel. Since even cheap item works, sacrifice everything.

• 10-35 int: Tame and chat with dungeon monsters - make friends with mages, necromancers and frogs.

• 40+ wisdom: Spawn an archangel and she'll kick up your wisdom another four points. Spawn another, this is hard.

• 50 int and 50 wis : Chat with all the dolphins in the cathedral. This can boost your Int and Wis as high as to 80's.

Notes

• Tamed enemies mostly increase intelligence.

• The librarian is good for intelligence and the frogs are wonderful for wisdom.

• The Banana Growers are good but have a pretty low chance of talking. Kaethos the village elder is awesome. Richel Decos the imperialist has a 15 charisma requirement and improves charisma.