4zb4
I feel like there need to be a more definitive counter to mystic dark frogs. Like telecontrol preventing them from teleporting your equipment away.
In fact magic in general is pretty unfair toward the player (even for a roguelike) but it's mitigated by the fact that it isn't all that common a threat

Ischaldirh
I do agree, but I don't think there shuold be a *hard* counter. Otherwise MDF and Izzy lose a lot of their potency.

red_kangaroo
Re: overpowered magic, I still think Willpower as already existing but unused stat could be useful to grant a chance to resist teleproting equipment, debuffs and such.

Serin-Delaunay
Willpower seems the best option for a soft counter to spellcasters, but how would it be trained? What ommel fluid would give willpower experience?

4zb4
I think it should have its own Ommel fluid, because it should be the most difficult stat to raise. We could use Ommel Mucus, Ommel Vomit, Ommel Bile, Ommel Blood, Ommel Saliva...

capristo
There needs to be a way to train it without fluids too

Ischaldirh
We already have ommel mucus (ommel snot). What about ommel fat?
As for training it - controlled teleportations and polymorphs could train it. Uncontrolled ones could abuse it. In both cases training should be slow.

The worst blocker I found was the carrot. At 400, you would need to be an excellent carrot warrior to block anything.