No, cloned mirror objects are not permanent (in fact, cloned mirror objects last the same amount of time no matter when they were cloned). Polymorphed mirror objects, however, are (by which I mean if you have a bottle of poison, mirror it, and then zap a poly wand at the pile, both resulting objects are permanent).

A question on IRC was asked last night about the relationship between polymorphing and mirroring. I found two interesting facts out from the exploration of their potential relationships (courtesy of wizard mode):

1. Polymorphed mirror objects are permanent.
2. Polymorphed mirror friendlies live as long as they stay polymorphed, and are not subject to the killing effects of the mirror counter until they return to their original form (the polymorph counter is considerably longer than the mirror counter).

The first is neat, but kind of useless (why waste a mirror wand charge like that when you can mine for extra objects??), but the second presents an interesting new use for the polymorph wand (though somewhat more resource-consuming).

In addition, you can clone mirrored objects but I'm not really sure that hasn't already been listed here.

Gotcha. If the forum were bigger it could potentially be abused, though. But eh, not likely anyone who wants to hang around here would engage in such dickery. Just making stuff clear is all.

Very minor bug test....

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I have edited this post 4 times. Original post was just "Very minor bug test...." Maybe not so minor...

I think how this works is that if you edit within the minute of your original post time that the edit is not countedcounter is not triggered (possibly because edits are assumed to take long enough that they happen in different minutes). I first saw this a while back but I didn't think very much of it and didn't think to post it until now. This is the fifth and likely only reported edit to this post. Then again.... sixth unreported??

Ok. It caught up with that last one. Since now it looks fine, I'll explain what happened: When I clicked Save and came back, there was no mention of how many times the post had been edited, so it looked as if the post was original. It stayed that way for five edits. Only the sixth (plus one where I actually clicked Cancel and thus didn't actually change the post, might want to work on that too) got the counter to show.

This will be the 9th edit. >_>;;;;

I've seen that bug, and it does look like a result of someone posting, then deleting the post and the forum not getting the message that there is no longer a new response. Could be something else, though.

*shrug* Getting even just four wishes for the price of one is damned powerful. Hello ESP amulet, hello brilliance helmet, hello levitation belt, hello socm.

I'm pretty sure the dividing line of what routes to winning are classically considered kosher is basically figured by the question of "If the devs were still developing, and they were made aware of this behavior, would they cut it next version?" Artificial limbs clearly were designed to be part of things even though they make the game easier; this was not (and that wands of cloning don't work on wishing scrolls suggests that the devteam would have removed this functionality once it was noticed).

Pre-Jenny as in UT2 or less, or as in before you make her dead/boot her out of the way to Attnam with a tele wand? If the latter it may be just a matter of time in my case (have a nice bones on her level with a wand of mirror, so all I'd need next is a scroll of wishing from 1 or 2 and bam, mission complete).

Damn, mirrored wishing scrolls. Not how I did it (mash X 20 times), but incredible that there is a way to simulate the effect in-game minus wizmode. Now wands of mirroring are even more valuable.

*shrug* I haven't ever downloaded CVS, so I can't be sure.