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Jun 14, 2014, 8:27 pm
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It only affects the square you're standing on. 4 items on the ground will be mirrored along with yourself. If you wield a scroll in each hand you can take them from your mirror and get a total of 6 mirrored scrolls from breaking the wand.
Jun 15, 2014, 5:40 am
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Pent wrote
If you wield a scroll in each hand you can take them from your mirror and get a total of 6 mirrored scrolls from breaking the wand.
That's brilliant, thanks.

Apparently eating black unicorn corpses isn't a good idea. Too bad, I really liked this character.
Aug 2, 2014, 10:37 pm
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Let it be known that lanterns actually make really good weapons.
They have a blocking modifier greater than most weapons, only being outclassed by battle-axes and halberds in vanilla IVAN (also rapiers, tip swords, great axes and spetums in (C)LIVAN).

In addition they actually do decent damage to begin with which will only get better as your skill/accustomization increases.
Being made of glass they also upgrade directly to Illithium which you can do the moment you find a SoHM and reach 25 INT which largely mitigates their greatest weakness - being fragile.
Speaking of being fragile, that hardly matters because of the sheer number of lanterns you can simply run and pull off the wall to club people with.

Their biggest downfall is that they cannot be enchanted by any means so far as I can see, and normal glass lanterns started to be lacking in damage come Jenny, but Illithium ones are much stronger.
System would indicate in graphic if person is mounted on horse or not.
Same system also show if person mounted on boar, elephant, polar bear etc.
Or if person mounted on ass.
Ivan find mounting on ass funny.
Aug 5, 2014, 12:08 pm
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I saw in the shoutbox that enemies wont move into a square with a pea soup fart on it. If you were standing in the cloud will monsters not move into the cloud to attack you? If so this would make for a very nice exploit when combined with the gas mask.
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Aug 5, 2014, 3:50 pm
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Ooh, that's something to look into. I think they'd be able to attack you if they're in an adjacent tile, and this is a little bit more plausible in vanilla IVAN where you're unlikely to have more than 1 fart cloud tile to stand in.
I'll test it later today if someone doesn't beat me to it.
System would indicate in graphic if person is mounted on horse or not.
Same system also show if person mounted on boar, elephant, polar bear etc.
Or if person mounted on ass.
Ivan find mounting on ass funny.
Aug 5, 2014, 6:10 pm
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Just tried it out; they still attack you if you're standing in your own fart. It still gives you a good method of baiting them though: if you're in a narrow tunnel, you can zap them from behind the fart, then when they start moving away you can step into the fart and they'll come back towards you. Step out of the fart and repeat.
Aug 5, 2014, 9:44 pm
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Never in my life did I think I would be hearing people discussing farts in tactics of a roguelike. There is hope in this world, after all.
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Aug 6, 2014, 12:17 am
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The question is, does the tactic work against Sherry? (Sorry Smag, I just really need to know this)
Batman? wrote
its been so long since i had gotten that far i didnt think it through. arrrr!!!!!!
Aug 6, 2014, 1:57 am
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Just tested it, and yes fart gas will immobilize Sherry and block her passage.
System would indicate in graphic if person is mounted on horse or not.
Same system also show if person mounted on boar, elephant, polar bear etc.
Or if person mounted on ass.
Ivan find mounting on ass funny.
Aug 6, 2014, 3:43 am
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So, the second most dangerous enemy in IVAN has a weakness... Farts.
Aug 6, 2014, 3:57 am
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In fact all the top tier monsters refuse to step foot in fart clouds including Elpuri, Oree, Petrus and Ischaldirh (not that he needs to move).

I do believe this means that every single breathing monster in IVAN is afraid of farts. (Or rather everything that doesn't have a GAS_IMMUNITY tag. That's most of the named dudes.)
System would indicate in graphic if person is mounted on horse or not.
Same system also show if person mounted on boar, elephant, polar bear etc.
Or if person mounted on ass.
Ivan find mounting on ass funny.
Aug 6, 2014, 6:28 am
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That means Ivan Gorovits should be able to boldly walk through a fart cloud without quailing.
Batman? wrote
its been so long since i had gotten that far i didnt think it through. arrrr!!!!!!
Aug 6, 2014, 7:51 am
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On a related and amusing note, the only other things with a gas immunity tag and functioning noses are orcs and skunks.
I believe that is because they are used to naturally smelling like satan's rotting bumhole.
System would indicate in graphic if person is mounted on horse or not.
Same system also show if person mounted on boar, elephant, polar bear etc.
Or if person mounted on ass.
Ivan find mounting on ass funny.
Aug 11, 2014, 2:37 pm
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Do you know that if you change your leg material to "brown gas", you can run faster?
Batman? wrote
its been so long since i had gotten that far i didnt think it through. arrrr!!!!!!
Aug 11, 2014, 4:33 pm
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Does that also make you levitate? it should turn you into a genie
Aug 11, 2014, 5:31 pm
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You can't SoCM to liquids or gaseous materials in normal play though. Would be interesting to implement as a god effect though, maybe.
I am also loving the image of IVANguy speeding after dudes with nothing but a huge fart cloud emanating from his butt.
System would indicate in graphic if person is mounted on horse or not.
Same system also show if person mounted on boar, elephant, polar bear etc.
Or if person mounted on ass.
Ivan find mounting on ass funny.
Aug 11, 2014, 9:46 pm
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Genies' flesh is made of magical air. There should be a small chance when rubbing a lamp of getting a fart genie instead who asks for your wish then ignores it and gives you a random item.
Aug 12, 2014, 12:27 am
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I like the way you think Pent.
16:02 The genie rumbles violently and disappears in a puff of smoke.
16:02 It smells really bad here.
System would indicate in graphic if person is mounted on horse or not.
Same system also show if person mounted on boar, elephant, polar bear etc.
Or if person mounted on ass.
Ivan find mounting on ass funny.
Sep 1, 2014, 12:45 am
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Through working on filling out the wiki some more, I have discovered the following:
  • A monster tagged with "IsEnormous" blocks the player's line of sight as though it were a wall. Our first example of this is Huang Ming Pong the sumo wrestler.
  • Plants (monsters tagged with IsPlant - mushrooms, carnivorous plants) take 1.5x more damage from anything tagged with IsGoodWithPlants - i.e. scythes and sickles currently

Feel free to go look over my recent additions to the wiki in case I've made some mistakes somewhere (probably).
System would indicate in graphic if person is mounted on horse or not.
Same system also show if person mounted on boar, elephant, polar bear etc.
Or if person mounted on ass.
Ivan find mounting on ass funny.
Sep 1, 2014, 1:09 am
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4zb4 wrote
  • A monster tagged with "IsEnormous" blocks the player's line of sight as though it were a wall. Our first example of this is Huang Ming Pong the sumo wrestler.

Being 2 in the morning here, I read this as "IsErnomous" and came this close to checking the Scripts.

I remember seeing the tag, but never realized what it actually did. That plant thing is pretty cool too; I wonder if any other monster types take bonus damage from certain weapons?
Sep 1, 2014, 1:51 am
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Pent wrote
That plant thing is pretty cool too; I wonder if any other monster types take bonus damage from certain weapons?

It doesn't seem like it, IsPlant is the only thing called in that damage check and there's room for it to check for any other tags if you so wanted.
I also checked the char.h file for anything interesting, it doesn't seem like there's anything relevant unfortunately.

Plenty of room to add weaknesses/strengths if we wanted to though!
System would indicate in graphic if person is mounted on horse or not.
Same system also show if person mounted on boar, elephant, polar bear etc.
Or if person mounted on ass.
Ivan find mounting on ass funny.
Sep 2, 2014, 12:45 am
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Pent wrote
Being 2 in the morning here, I read this as "IsErnomous"

Don't worry, you're not the only one. It's to be expected since that word is, in fact, what his username is based off.
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Sep 10, 2014, 8:01 pm
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IVAN's smiths cannot repair items without having a hammer wielded.
"Hammer" however extends not only to blacksmith's hammers, but also warhammers, the Gorovits family hammer, and thunder hammers.

After 30 in-game days veteran kamikaze dwarves have a chance to spawn with natural invisibility. After 50 days, all veteran kamikaze dwarves become invisible.

Danger level does not increase by itself for the first five days. After this it starts increasing gradually as each day passes.
After 10 days monsters begin getting boosts to their natural attributes.

The enner beast becomes tired by using its shouts (-1000 stamina).
In addition, shouting makes it hungry (-100 nutrition points - that's 1/10th of a kiwi) and the amount of time it takes (action points - think like Jagged Alliance or XCOM) is reduced by its biting skill.
So technically the enner beast could tire itself out, or starve itself to death.

Petrus has code for being able to cure poison, restore HP, and reattach limbs but I am not sure this ever shows itself in-game.
System would indicate in graphic if person is mounted on horse or not.
Same system also show if person mounted on boar, elephant, polar bear etc.
Or if person mounted on ass.
Ivan find mounting on ass funny.
Sep 10, 2014, 9:11 pm
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I love all of those. God this game is awesome.
Sep 10, 2014, 9:27 pm
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Oh something else I missed.
Singing kamikaze dwarves actually take time to sing (1000 AP) - it's not a free action.
System would indicate in graphic if person is mounted on horse or not.
Same system also show if person mounted on boar, elephant, polar bear etc.
Or if person mounted on ass.
Ivan find mounting on ass funny.
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