Posted by Cerumen, Jun 14, 2008 at 6:39 pm
I did a little test and - you don't even need a wand of acid rain. Just drop your wares at the door and you'll sell them, then kick them out.
Nice find! More tempting exploits to newbs...
Nice find! More tempting exploits to newbs...
Posted by Cerumen, Jun 14, 2008 at 3:52 pm
Um, drop stuff in any shop apart from the New Attnam one.
I've given you a helpful tip, and that's a good deed for today for me! I'll go eat a cookie now.
I've given you a helpful tip, and that's a good deed for today for me! I'll go eat a cookie now.
Posted by Cerumen, Jun 14, 2008 at 3:50 pm
EDIT: Quick question! I tired in one game to harden my lanterns. It told me my INT was too low. Can you really harden them, and, if so, in what and at what INT? (Dual Mithril Lanterns FTW!)
Illithium at 25. Sounds fun, eh?
I've tried it with full bananas, but it was harder it seems
Also, zombies are the bane of any weak-weapon challenge.
Posted by Cerumen, Jun 14, 2008 at 12:49 pm
'aven't got to them kamikaze dwarves, did ya. 
Posted by Cerumen, Jun 11, 2008 at 7:26 am
Hiccups?
in forum IVAN Variants
I meant with the above method. I have wished for bottles many a time, but never scored ommel fluids.
It's possible. It's just that the chance of getting ommel fluids is like a chance of finding them, as compared to other things, so you'll have to try a lot of wishes.
IvanX is currently on the back burner, seeing as I got a new daughter last week.
Woot for you!
Name her Sherarax!
Posted by Cerumen, Jun 11, 2008 at 7:24 am
I'm in GC 1 currently and will continue this later.
I was thinking about it - my answer would be no. Let's just say you can only wield one banana peel or two banana peels. No banana peel + shield or nothing + shield.
Gah, I can't see why not, but then you're playing an "artificial banana peels" game
(alternatively, I thought about using only weapons made of (holy) banana peel / flesh - eg. if angry Loricatus changes your weapon to banana, you can use them)
I have couple of questions about the rules: First, can I equip shields?
I was thinking about it - my answer would be no. Let's just say you can only wield one banana peel or two banana peels. No banana peel + shield or nothing + shield.
Also, I found scroll of change material and was thinking is it against rules to use it or scroll of harden material to make banana peels harder?
Gah, I can't see why not, but then you're playing an "artificial banana peels" game
(alternatively, I thought about using only weapons made of (holy) banana peel / flesh - eg. if angry Loricatus changes your weapon to banana, you can use them)
Posted by Cerumen, Jun 9, 2008 at 5:09 pm
Just had some fun with a heir to Bananator - Bananator II! Turns out you can dish out some damage with critical hits and when at high whip skill, even with banana peels. Bananator II died killed by an Enner Beast, facing the gruesome monster without any means to really kill him - presumably, a Holy Banana (or a teleport wand) would have helped. The wand of door creation didn't, but I had no other alternative
Posted by Cerumen, Jun 9, 2008 at 4:25 pm
I remember once a topic about challenges in IVAN and the various suggestions. I've decided to pull out my own challenge, slightly more realistic than some other proposed, ie. the following:
1. At the start of the game, you have to go to New Attnam, leave Kenny there, and buy at least two bananas at the shop. You need to eat both and dual-wield the peels.
2. Throughout the game, the only wielded weapons allowed are banana peels, single-handed or dual-wielded. If they rot away (you get a message "equipment broken!"), your melee combat restrictions are as for panic - no direct combat unless cornered, and even so, only unarmed.
3. You cannot deal damage by wands except for the Holy Banana. Non-damaging wands are allowed (teleportation, polymorph, etc.).
4. Throwing, vomiting, potions, armour, cans, all food and divine interventions are all allowed, if they do not break the above rules. If a god grants you a weapon, you cannot use it, for example.
5. Pets are allowed, but only as god-granted gifts, and even so, you are obliged to prevent them from following you. You may steal their equipment or kill them afterwards.
6. Any version of IVAN is allowed, unless they're your own overpowered mods. I personally picked IVANT for its longer UT, so that you can get more stuff and power before facing Genetrix Vesana.
Now, onto the most successful adventure I've had with the above challenge - behold, the story of Bananator.
I started out and did my duty of dual-wielding banana peels. I then descended the mazes of UT and got myself some armour. Alas, my banana peels kept rotting away quickly, and before leaving the UT, I had to return to Attnam three times. Damn bananas.
Dual-wielding banana peels does two things: Improves your whip skills, and trains dexterity naturally and amazingly fast. Ironically, I've also found a runed +4 whip on my way in the UT, but I obviously didn't use it.
Trouble (or, if you prefer, FUN) starts with enemies that take no damage from banana peels. These are mutant asses, large carnivorous plants, kobold chieftains (strangely enough, not kobold lords) and Genetrix Vesana herself.
My way of dealing with Jenny was first to pray to Silva to get an earthquake, which teleported her away, and then using a wand of teleport to clear the area near the stairs and quickly escape.
Then I went to Attnam, and then to the GC, and then I forgot to get myself fire protection and I stepped on a bloody mine on the second level.
(please note the naturally trained dexterity and agility)
I had some fun before that, and the restrictions force you to do some extravagant strategies... I invite everybody to join I know that the challenge is a bit chaotic as it is, and some elements of it may be overpowered (for one, praying to Legifer). But I'll keep trying
1. At the start of the game, you have to go to New Attnam, leave Kenny there, and buy at least two bananas at the shop. You need to eat both and dual-wield the peels.
2. Throughout the game, the only wielded weapons allowed are banana peels, single-handed or dual-wielded. If they rot away (you get a message "equipment broken!"), your melee combat restrictions are as for panic - no direct combat unless cornered, and even so, only unarmed.
3. You cannot deal damage by wands except for the Holy Banana. Non-damaging wands are allowed (teleportation, polymorph, etc.).
4. Throwing, vomiting, potions, armour, cans, all food and divine interventions are all allowed, if they do not break the above rules. If a god grants you a weapon, you cannot use it, for example.
5. Pets are allowed, but only as god-granted gifts, and even so, you are obliged to prevent them from following you. You may steal their equipment or kill them afterwards.
6. Any version of IVAN is allowed, unless they're your own overpowered mods. I personally picked IVANT for its longer UT, so that you can get more stuff and power before facing Genetrix Vesana.
Now, onto the most successful adventure I've had with the above challenge - behold, the story of Bananator.
I started out and did my duty of dual-wielding banana peels. I then descended the mazes of UT and got myself some armour. Alas, my banana peels kept rotting away quickly, and before leaving the UT, I had to return to Attnam three times. Damn bananas.
Dual-wielding banana peels does two things: Improves your whip skills, and trains dexterity naturally and amazingly fast. Ironically, I've also found a runed +4 whip on my way in the UT, but I obviously didn't use it.
Trouble (or, if you prefer, FUN) starts with enemies that take no damage from banana peels. These are mutant asses, large carnivorous plants, kobold chieftains (strangely enough, not kobold lords) and Genetrix Vesana herself.
My way of dealing with Jenny was first to pray to Silva to get an earthquake, which teleported her away, and then using a wand of teleport to clear the area near the stairs and quickly escape.
Then I went to Attnam, and then to the GC, and then I forgot to get myself fire protection and I stepped on a bloody mine on the second level.
(please note the naturally trained dexterity and agility)
I had some fun before that, and the restrictions force you to do some extravagant strategies... I invite everybody to join
I know that the challenge is a bit chaotic as it is, and some elements of it may be overpowered (for one, praying to Legifer). But I'll keep trying
Posted by Cerumen, Jun 8, 2008 at 10:55 am
Hiccups?
in forum IVAN Variants
They can, using the above method, because if you wish for any bottle of can, its content is randomised. In versions where you get a question to confirm your wish, you can actually see the content before confirming.
Posted by Cerumen, Jun 7, 2008 at 9:21 am
Hiccups?
in forum IVAN Variants
Don't want to create a new topic, but here: I've found a new abuse in post-CVS derivates, ie. wish confirmation.
Since the game is nice enough to ask "Do you want to wish for..." and display a name of the item that the wish will result in, you can wish for eg. a "bottle" and then see what the potential bottle wished for contains. Thus, you can answer "no" until you get ommel fluids, for instance.
A nice thing to remove in future (amateur) patches
Since the game is nice enough to ask "Do you want to wish for..." and display a name of the item that the wish will result in, you can wish for eg. a "bottle" and then see what the potential bottle wished for contains. Thus, you can answer "no" until you get ommel fluids, for instance.
A nice thing to remove in future (amateur) patches