Even the shops are not safe from the menace known as mines.

Sep 25, 2008, 6:58 pm

#1

archangel

Joined: Jan 11, 2008
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At least it wasn't a big mine, and at least Merka didn't try to slay me for tripping it...

Sep 25, 2008, 10:16 pm

#2

Caped Crusader

Joined: Dec 17, 2007
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was there an eddy on the level?

Sep 25, 2008, 11:14 pm

#3

angel

Joined: Dec 2, 2007
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good thought - I've had this happen before and there was an eddy.

Sep 26, 2008, 12:28 am

#4

archangel

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Not to my knowledge. I haven't explored the whole level yet, though.

Sep 26, 2008, 7:51 am

#5

Mage Prophet

Joined: Dec 3, 2007
Occupation: Chaos Weaver
Location: Standing between all life and death
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See if you can find an eddy. Although, if monsters can spawn in there, there's a chance mines can too.

Uchuudonge wrote

creating stable chaos
making patterns where there should be none
sewing order into the chaos
you spit in the face of random numbers, of chaos

Oct 2, 2008, 3:56 pm

#6

archangel

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Posts: 1,019

I met no eddies in GC2, and do not recall there being any mentioned as being killed there when I died later, either.

Oct 3, 2008, 6:14 am

#7

Mage Prophet

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There's a possibility you missed it, eddies can go through walls.

Uchuudonge wrote

creating stable chaos
making patterns where there should be none
sewing order into the chaos
you spit in the face of random numbers, of chaos

Oct 4, 2008, 2:12 am

#8

archangel

Joined: Jan 11, 2008
Posts: 1,019

Well, perhaps, but I was there a while, and in fact died there as a result of thinking Merka and his guards would care if a hostile genie showed up (they don't). Unless eddies can go down/up staircases at will, too, I dunno how likely it is that I missed it (I killed an eddy on the floor above).

Oct 4, 2008, 10:48 am

#9

The Imperialist

Joined: Dec 2, 2007
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I am pretty sure a mine has spawned inside the gc shop for me as well, without there being an eddy. There have almost definitely been bear traps, would mines be any different?

Oct 5, 2008, 5:40 am

#10

Mage Prophet

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Unlikely. If a mine for sale happens to be activated, then that's just too bad. I mean hell, I've had a guy die from an active adamantine bear trap in UT3, it's far from impossible

. I'm just trying to nail down the cause for BDR.

Also, Merka and his guards are on a completely neutral team. Nobody cares what they do (except you), and they don't care what anyone else does (except if you piss them off). Hence my "diplomatic immunity perk" in WM.

Uchuudonge wrote

creating stable chaos
making patterns where there should be none
sewing order into the chaos
you spit in the face of random numbers, of chaos

Oct 7, 2008, 5:57 am

#11

Atavus' Little Helper

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I think one of these guys says "we have an agreement with the monsters so they don't attack us", something like that.

Oct 7, 2008, 6:43 am

#12

Mage Prophet

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Well, evidently the agreement was with the people too

Uchuudonge wrote

creating stable chaos
making patterns where there should be none
sewing order into the chaos
you spit in the face of random numbers, of chaos

Oct 7, 2008, 11:53 am

#13

angel

Joined: Dec 2, 2007
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Location: Under a pile of my own offspring
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Posts: 612

@Z

and they keep the taxmen away