Me too. I thought requiring high enough Int and Cha to body switch, plus many humanoids being extra fragile or unable to read will balance it, but obviously some creatures are way too easy to tame and way too powerful.

At least it doesn't seem to be more broken than phoenix feather limbs.

Yeah, it's gone... or was it ever there?!?!?!

I bet she'll polymorph you into a giant spider one her first hit or something similar.

Yeah, that's my thinking, too.


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Nice!

What would you say if we moved dwarven gas chamber to TX 2 to 4?

It can be generated on floors 4 to 6 right now, but floor 5 is Enner level. Thus, it's generated on Enner level in 1/3 of all games, exploding pretty much immediately after the player enters the floor. This is no fun, because the loot is burned/gone and it's safe for the player to pick up the pieces (if any) as all mines are already gone. The minefield in GC is IMHO so fun because it offers good loot very early, but at the very high risk of loosing the loot or your life, because you also tend to be underprepared by that stage of the game.

So, what if we moved the gas chamber upwards in the dungeon? It will not be exploded by Enners, offer nice loot a bit earlier, but also at a very dangerous price.

Sirens cannot confuse you. You have to be doing something else to get confused.

The loss of stamina I feel is just okay, because if it was weaker, sirens would have no chance to actually make a visible dent into your stamina reserves (just look how long it takes for you to run out of stamina later in the game where sirens spawn more often). And it's still very easily counterable with water if you cannot kill the siren before becoming Exhausted.

I actually think the only nasty effect is the charming of pets. Sirens won't even run away when they steal something, and are fragile enough to kill even if they steal your weapon.

Got down to resurrected Xinroch's level with full valpurium and GEF gear, sure in my strength. Random explosion broke a random wand of polymorph and I ended up as a giant spider....

Squish!

I even had a ring of polycontrol, just not worn!!!

They can be triggered more than once, because they are not exploding but just releasing gas when stepped on. However, they will be discovered when triggered, so you won't randomly trigger them again and again. They also have a high chance of breaking whenever triggered and can be disarmed by picking them up or kicking them from adjacent square.

I managed to "break" the game without using any exploits. Well, I SOCM'd my limbs eventually, because I could, but still, look at my mental stats.

I body switched into a female slave, sacrificing some physical attributes for higher Int and Wis, then science talked to all NPCs I could, then went down to GC 8, where Praecantrix (henceforth refered to as Penny) summons necromancers and other critters. With some Dulcis and lyre of charm, I tamed the necromancers and science talked to them, until I could go to the dolphins and talk to those.

Then I SOCM'd my limbs and equipment, enchanted it, tamed some more necromancers and now I'm several times more intelligent than Izzy.

Well, I really hope overconfidence will not kill me against Xinroch.