Quests

May 18, 2014, 8:14 am
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I hope this board is the right one to post our suggestions. I must say I'm a bit lost with what belong where right now.

I think that IVAN could really stand some side quests in addition to the main storyline and as there was the Bring spider to child tourist quest added, I present you some ideas:

Heal Kaethos quest
  • Give either a healing liquid, troll blood to Kaethos (or zap him with a wand of ressurection?) so he regains his leg, for a reward of course
  • This quest is only accesible after the Revolution, as who would like to be healthy when that means only to work on banana plantation?

Silva altar quest
  • After Revolution, chat with the priestess of Silva and she will tell you to bring something from UT4, so she can restore the temple of Silva in NA
  • You shall bring something like holy crystal or even the guaranteed altar (but how?)
  • If you do it, you will be rewarded, the priestess will move to the old temple where Decos lived and build there an altar of Silva

Mistress quest
  • Chat with the eunuch guard in Attnam to get this quest
  • The guard tells you he guards both Petrus‘ wives and his sexual life – and the latter is not good at all. Petrus is bored by the obedient submission of all his wives and his visits in the harem are increasingly rare.
  • The quest is to spice up Petrus' sexual life – bring a tamed mistress to the eunuch guard and you will be rewarded

Enner escort quest
  • According to game files:
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  • Also, Sir Galedon killed an enner, so there are other enners in the world
  • Make enner friendly (after all, he just wants to make friends, it is not his fault everything is dying ), he will still scream, but automatically, not due to hostility
  • If you chat with him (and survive), he will tell you how lonely he feels and how he always dreamed about meeting a girl who would not fear his voice
  • In a different dungeon, you can find a female enner beast, she is also friendly and after chatting with you, she will follow you (and scream)
  • Escort you to the GC and bring her together with the enner, survive it all and be rewarded
  • The reward should be REALLY BIG, just for not dying

Enner head quest
  • And another enner quest
  • As Pent wrote, enner's head is still animated, even when chopped off, and that is awsome
  • If you chat with guards in Attnam, you will learn that Sir Galedon fought some enner and managed to kill it – yet it was everything but a brave deed of him
  • Killing enner always yields his head, take this head to Sir Galedon so he can put in above his hearth and boast to his friends, and be rewarded
  • (Side note: make one of the empty houses in Attnam into Galedon'S house with a hearth )

Supplies for Merka quest
  • Merka has an agreement with dungeon monsters yet there is no such agreement to protect his suppliers
  • Merka will give you a shopping list – bring his these items and you will get a reward
  • He could also send you to another shopkeeper (the Atnamese one?) who will simply give you a chest with all the items Merka requests – yet the chest is HEAVY
  • A possible reward could be some gold, or maybe item (ring of detection – lets you detect any material once in a while, useful but not so much as you have to wear the ring and be at the right place in the right time to really detect something crucial)
May 18, 2014, 3:20 pm
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red_kangaroo wrote
Heal Kaethos quest
  • Give either a healing liquid, troll blood to Kaethos (or zap him with a wand of ressurection?) so he regains his leg, for a reward of course

I never thought of this so I Just tried it in wizmode. nothing happens.
Booooooooooo!
May 18, 2014, 4:06 pm
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red_kangaroo wrote
Silva altar quest
  • After Revolution, chat with the priestess of Silva and she will tell you to bring something from UT4, so she can restore the temple of Silva in NA
  • You shall bring something like holy crystal or even the guaranteed altar (but how?)

Easy. You pick the altar up and carry it all the way back home.
Or we could just make a broken altar of Silva spawn down there and the priestess fixes it when you bring it back. Perhaps multiple pieces.

System would indicate in graphic if person is mounted on horse or not.
Same system also show if person mounted on boar, elephant, polar bear etc.
Or if person mounted on ass.
Ivan find mounting on ass funny.
May 18, 2014, 5:11 pm
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Batman? wrote
I never thought of this so I Just tried it in wizmode. nothing happens.

It worked when I zapped him with a wand of resurrection in wizmode. Same for the one-armed hunters in Attnam.
May 18, 2014, 6:46 pm
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i worked in giving him a new leg, it just didnt have any in game efect
Booooooooooo!
May 18, 2014, 7:10 pm
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It occurs to me there's no solid numbers on just how big an altar is, just that it's made of granite.
System would indicate in graphic if person is mounted on horse or not.
Same system also show if person mounted on boar, elephant, polar bear etc.
Or if person mounted on ass.
Ivan find mounting on ass funny.
May 19, 2014, 1:13 am
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4zb4 wrote
It occurs to me there's no solid numbers on just how big an altar is, just that it's made of granite.

I think that altars are the same as stairs or fountains - indestructible and immovable (and made of granite). That's why I was unsure how to move it from UT4 to NA.

However, I like the shattered altar pieces to bring to the priestess.
May 19, 2014, 6:56 am
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I had amused myself with the idea of just making the character carry the entire altar on his back (i.e. make a "dirty/ancient altar of Silva" item that weighs a ton) so the main difficulties of the quest are both beating spider momma AND figuring out how to carry the damn thing home.

Also, if you can carry it that means you can also use it as a weapon!
System would indicate in graphic if person is mounted on horse or not.
Same system also show if person mounted on boar, elephant, polar bear etc.
Or if person mounted on ass.
Ivan find mounting on ass funny.
May 19, 2014, 7:22 am
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If it's too heavy, you might kick it. If it ends up in a corner, you'll need a pickaxe, of course. If it ends up in a corner of undiggable walls... Well, bad luck, unless you happen to have a wand of teleportation. But you'd have to be able to kick things up stairs... Which is probably not happening anytime soon.
What if Silva is angry if you try teleporting it, because she wants you to use your "natural force"?
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May 19, 2014, 11:03 am
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Eagle V wrote
If it's too heavy, you might kick it. If it ends up in a corner, you'll need a pickaxe, of course. If it ends up in a corner of undiggable walls... Well, bad luck, unless you happen to have a wand of teleportation. But you'd have to be able to kick things up stairs... Which is probably not happening anytime soon.
What if Silva is angry if you try teleporting it, because she wants you to use your "natural force"?

Actually, going upstairs is the least of problems - apparently, you have no problem climbing stairs while overload, even though you cannot move otherwise. (Also, you can use stairs while polymorphed into e.g. carnivorous plant.)

Kaethos could possibly give you some book that raises your mental stats (and can be read only once, maybe confuses you if you read it again? ) - after all, he worked at University, so he must have some books stored. Also, that book could be useful yet not too strong as the quest is not hard to accomplish.

What about making the eunuch guard friendly after the Mistress quest, so he will overlook you flirting with Petrus' wives? If you haven't completed it yet, he (but only he) could become hostile if you try to seduce them - you cannot attack him or you would make the whole Attnam hostile, but he couldn't go out of the harem room, so you would be safe simply by walking away. He could revert to being neutral after a while, so you can attempt the Mistress quest again.
May 19, 2014, 12:38 pm
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red_kangaroo wrote
What about making the eunuch guard friendly after the Mistress quest, so he will overlook you flirting with Petrus' wives? If you haven't completed it yet, he (but only he) could become hostile if you try to seduce them - you cannot attack him or you would make the whole Attnam hostile, but he couldn't go out of the harem room, so you would be safe simply by walking away. He could revert to being neutral after a while, so you can attempt the Mistress quest again.

I love this description. This is exactly how it should function
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its been so long since i had gotten that far i didnt think it through. arrrr!!!!!!
May 20, 2014, 9:33 am
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Quote
I had amused myself with the idea of just making the character carry the entire altar on his back (i.e. make a "dirty/ancient altar of Silva" item that weighs a ton) so the main difficulties of the quest are both beating spider momma AND figuring out how to carry the damn thing home.


What about say......

1.) you kick it into pieces and carry them back home?

2.) using an axe you chop it into pieces?

3.) be manly and awesome and haul the whole thing home?

4.) pray to silva for guidance and permission to disassemble the alter to relocate it?

5.) Burn it and laugh Evilly while eating some human flesh and praying to an Evil god.





[wait....can't alters be converted to other ones with that wand of polymorph or something?
Convert it to a evil god and move it to there evil place of evil and bad taste.]
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May 20, 2014, 9:46 am
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Change its material to Assassin Flesh. Float it up the dungeon.
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May 20, 2014, 1:38 pm
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EireMadHatter wrote
4.) pray to silva for guidance and permission to disassemble the alter to relocate it?

Maybe it could be that any earthquake (the only source of which are conveniently prayers to Silva) can shatter an altar into portable pieces?


Eagle V wrote

Change its material to Assassin Flesh. Float it up the dungeon.

Sure.

I'll give you one more quest I came up with:

Daemon Ending
  • Steal the Avatar of Valpurus (the valpurium statue laying on the right thorne in the Cathedral) from Attnam and go to Oree's lair.
  • Chatting with Oree (even though he is hostile) will bring up the Do you have something to give me? prompt and if you select to give him the Avatar, you will trigger the Daemon ending.
  • Oree will say something about that Valpurus was once again humiliated yb the powers of Choas and that you proved worthy in his eyes. He will than grant you immortality and demonic powers, transforming you into daemon. High score log should say that you became a daemon and continued to sow chaos and destruction.
  • Score like Knighthood ending, or so I'd say.

I'm proposing this because I feel sad for the little Avatar thing - it just sits there and does nothing, even though it looks like it should be important. It really feels underused.

Also, who wouldn't like to become a demon?
May 24, 2014, 9:12 am
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A minor request: Could we have a quest menu?

If ever more quests are added, it could be hard to remember which have you taken and what were you told to do. I already had that problem with Morbe quest in CLIVAN, totally forgetting about ever speaking with her. (And of course, I remebered just after I killed enner and ate him.)

It would be nice to have a menu where to check which quests are you supposed to carry out right now.
Jun 1, 2014, 1:09 pm
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Heh, triple posting.

About the quest rewards:

Katehos could give you the large and mysterious saga of the pantheon written by prof. Kaethos, Ph.D. (inspired by CLIVAN, of course). The book is unique in the same way as belt of levitation - you can get it from the quest or wish for it, but it cannot randomly generate. The book can be read only once, revealing the rituals of all gods to you and heavily training your Int and Wis. As you will be rather far into the game by the time you trigger Revolution (and before you cannot complete the Kaethos quest), knowing all god rituals is not overpowered in my eyes. The stat training is and added bonus.

When you finish the Silva altar quest, the priestess could give you the horn of plenty - again, a wishable but non-generating item. Each time you apply it, it will create one piece of random fruit (banana, pineapple, kiwi or carrot, never holy banana). Given the time it takes to recharge, it cannot sate your hunger on its own, but it can save you while starving and serves as a way how to eat fruit without the fear of it spoiling.

And once more about the Mistress quest - I just found out that Petrus' wives in vanilla do not wear chastity belts. And that's sad. I'd be for porting chastity belts with one improvement - in CLIVAN, they cannot be locked even though they do have a lock on themselves. So what about making the chastity belts lockable - you can equip or unequip it only while unlocked, locked chastity belts will stay on your groin until unlocked or broken. All Petrus' wives are generated with locked chastity belts with octagonal lock and you have to get an octagonal key to bump uglies with them.
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