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UT4 ?
Dec 18, 2007, 10:42 am
hedgehog
Joined: Dec 11, 2007
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In the Worlds page of the wiki, there is a "UT4 - crystals"
How do you get there ? Is it before or after going to Attnam ? I ve been to Attnam multiple times, my best game was GC5, but i've never seen a path to UT4
How do you get there ? Is it before or after going to Attnam ? I ve been to Attnam multiple times, my best game was GC5, but i've never seen a path to UT4
Dec 18, 2007, 10:57 am
Adorable Wolfie Pup
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It happens before Attnam, if you think you're strong enough. Look in UT2, there should be a room with a formation of rock, like a plus sign, in the middle of it. Use a pick-axe to break through the rock, and use the stairs that are in the middle of this formation. There's UT4, the crystal level. But, beware, there are a few pretty tough monsters down there.
"If you want peace, prepare for war."
Dec 18, 2007, 11:49 am
The Lord of the Sims
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There are some dangerous golems in UT4. You should clear UT3 and maybe GC1 before going down there.
The crystals you can find there are good as a unbreakable light source. Of course you can sell them too, if you need money.
The crystals you can find there are good as a unbreakable light source. Of course you can sell them too, if you need money.
Dec 18, 2007, 12:23 pm
The Imperialist
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Yeah I wouldn't go there until clearing at least 3 or 4 GC levels. The crystal golems are tough, the purple are weakest, then green, and really watch out for those blue ones. Also the spiderwebs can really cause problems, I can't tell you how many times I've been fleeing for my life from a blue crystal golem only to get stuck in a spider web and let the golem catch up and kill me
Dec 18, 2007, 2:26 pm
Mage Prophet
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Actually, the green crystal golem is the strongest.
Don't underestimate UT4 simply because it's UT. The spawn rate there is higher than anywhere else, and those golems are tough even with good equipment. One of my best characters managed to burn, hack and smash off a green golem's legs and an arm and it still demolished my groin with a lucky shot.
Don't underestimate UT4 simply because it's UT. The spawn rate there is higher than anywhere else, and those golems are tough even with good equipment. One of my best characters managed to burn, hack and smash off a green golem's legs and an arm and it still demolished my groin with a lucky shot.
Dec 19, 2007, 2:59 am
hedgehog
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Thanks everyone for the tip 
Regarding lucky shot i really think that is an issue in IVAN : I died countless times by a one-shot from a weak ennemy. Critical hit in games are ok, but theses seem really too powerful and you can't do anything against them. That's a bit against the "rules" of roguelike to have something you can't avoid : Roguelikes should be hard but fair.
I remember that one of my best guy with lot of good stuff was in GC 1 and killed a wolf in 2/3 attacks and lost between 0 and 5 HP (can't remember exactly) . Then he moved a bit, found another wolf, the wolf made a lucky shot : goodbye head, goodbye life, goodbye good stuff. -_-
Regarding lucky shot i really think that is an issue in IVAN : I died countless times by a one-shot from a weak ennemy. Critical hit in games are ok, but theses seem really too powerful and you can't do anything against them. That's a bit against the "rules" of roguelike to have something you can't avoid : Roguelikes should be hard but fair.
I remember that one of my best guy with lot of good stuff was in GC 1 and killed a wolf in 2/3 attacks and lost between 0 and 5 HP (can't remember exactly) . Then he moved a bit, found another wolf, the wolf made a lucky shot : goodbye head, goodbye life, goodbye good stuff. -_-
Dec 19, 2007, 4:23 am
He Who Scars
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Hard but fair?
Look somewhere else, bud, this game doesn't follow those rules.
Look somewhere else, bud, this game doesn't follow those rules.
Dec 19, 2007, 7:30 am
The Imperialist
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I don't think the wolf got lucky, I think you got lucky that the first wolf didn't get you. It's not luck, it's because the wolves have a really accurate attack which makes them more likely to get your limbs. And if you don't have sufficient protection from boots and gauntlets then you're screwed
Dec 19, 2007, 2:05 pm
Petty Tyrant
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Err, there is almost ZERO unfairness in IVAN. Every time I've died (after UT of course- I die from stupid shit in there all the time) it's always my fault. In this case, you should have had better armor before entering the wolf level or, the more obvious answer, have healed after getting hit by the first wolf. If you ever lose ANY health, try to immediately heal it back up.
Wait, let me get this straight... you hit the button? OH SHI-
Dec 30, 2007, 5:33 pm
angel
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Err, there is almost ZERO unfairness in IVAN. Every time I've died (after UT of course- I die from stupid shit in there all the time) it's always my fault. In this case, you should have had better armor before entering the wolf level or, the more obvious answer, have healed after getting hit by the first wolf. If you ever lose ANY health, try to immediately heal it back up.
100% agree