Stealing from shops

May 14, 12:32 pm
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What if you could steal items from shops when the shopkeeper cannot see you, with a chance of failure, of course? Attnam shops would require invisiblity and high Dex to pull this off, but Merka and his guards can see invisible, so you would need a different tactics or be infra-invisible to steal from him.

There should always be a chance you make some sound when stealing even when they cannot see you, so no 100% stealing. It could be a high risk, high reward way of getting items, because angering the shopkeepers is quite deadly.
May 14, 1:25 pm
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red_kangaroo wrote
What if you could steal items from shops when the shopkeeper cannot see you, with a chance of failure, of course? Attnam shops would require invisiblity and high Dex to pull this off, but Merka and his guards can see invisible, so you would need a different tactics or be infra-invisible to steal from him.

There should always be a chance you make some sound when stealing even when they cannot see you, so no 100% stealing. It could be a high risk, high reward way of getting items, because angering the shopkeepers is quite deadly.

Also make difficulty proportional to object size and value? Would it need a cool down? The player's relationship with Cleptia would definitely factor in as well.
May 14, 1:54 pm
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fejoa wrote
Also make difficulty proportional to object size and value? The player's relationship with Cleptia would definitely factor in as well.

Definitely.

fejoa wrote
Would it need a cool down?

I don't think so as long as you cannot always steal successfully. We could cap it at something like 80 - 90 %, so there's always a real threat of being seen. With no cooldown, it would then seriously tempt the player to steal only one more item.

EDIT: Also shopkeeper's Per should play a role.

I now have a mental image of player using a pet bear (who is enormous) to block the shopkeeper's line of sight to steal...
May 15, 12:12 am
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red_kangaroo wrote
I now have a mental image of player using a pet bear (who is enormous) to block the shopkeeper's line of sight to steal...

Can some states still foil this? Like infravision, ESP etc?
May 15, 1:33 am
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fejoa wrote
Can some states still foil this? Like infravision, ESP etc?

Both infra and ESP, as enormous creatures only block normal sight.
May 15, 11:56 am
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What about a formula here? High Dex, high Cleptia favour and low weight / size of item are good for best chance of pulling of a thievery.
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