to Mjolak or not to Mjolak

Feb 8, 2015, 7:30 pm
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that is the question.

I have a great game going, i fired a guy up just to screw around and drank from the first fountain i found in UT! - it immediatly sucked me down to UT3, uh oh. I was able to fight my way back to UT1, get geared up and wand o tele jenny out of the way so i could get to Attnam. I found a wand of poly in the attnam shop (always a marker of a lucky game for me) and then on GC2 I found an alter to atavus with a scroll of wishing(!) and a Magic (hopefully) Lamp. on the same level was the chest room, which contained Mjolak.

I am wondering if it is worth it? I always like the RP value of wielding a huge mega weapon like that, but I know that dual whips is way better. Can a heavily enchanted Mojo take me to the end game?
Feb 25, 2015, 10:14 pm
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Personally I've never used Mjolak because it affects your allignment and I go for neutral (cleptia to Legifer is possible).

However you could use any weapon to get to endgame. I have used regular halberds to get an elpuri win and Better yet is Ur Khan's ruby halberd. So Mjolak should be no problem.
Feb 26, 2015, 12:54 pm
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I think Mjolak is the only weapon I've won with. It is usually my weapon of choice. You don't get as many hits in as with whips, but it's much easier to one-shot your enemies, and also great for crushing and destroying armor and weapons, rendering your enemies powerless against you.
Feb 26, 2015, 3:55 pm
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This discussion has become theoretical, as I was killed by a cat. breathtakingly stupid playing on my part.
Feb 26, 2015, 8:24 pm
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The cat stole your life.
Feb 27, 2015, 12:36 pm
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Now he has 10. Question about cats, is their life-saving intrinsic random or is there a fixed amount t of times ypu can kill them before they finally die?
Feb 27, 2015, 7:21 pm
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Batman? wrote
Now he has 10. Question about cats, is their life-saving intrinsic random or is there a fixed amount t of times ypu can kill them before they finally die?

Looks like they have 7 lives.

CHARACTER(largecat, nonhumanoid)
{
  public:
    largecat() : Lives(7) { }
    virtual void Save(outputfile&) const;
    virtual void Load(inputfile&);
    virtual truth SpecialSaveLife();
  protected:
    int Lives;
};
Feb 27, 2015, 10:29 pm
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Shouldn't they have 9 lives? Is that different in different countries?
Feb 28, 2015, 4:33 am
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truth largecat::SpecialSaveLife()
{
  if(--Lives <= 0 || game::IsInWilderness())
    return false;
...

Looks like it is indeed 7. We can increase it to nine with our code repo if we feel so inclined...?

Is the benefit of the life-saving intrinsic bestowed on the player if she is polymorphed into a large cat?
Feb 28, 2015, 6:31 am
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Should cat corpses give a minute chance of granting intrinsic life saving?
Feb 28, 2015, 10:10 am
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Maybe they lost 2 lives before encountering the player. 7 lives is annoying enough already, I don't think we need to make it 9, but I dont have a problem either way
Feb 28, 2015, 3:17 pm
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It actually is different from country to country, but I dunno about Finland.
Mar 1, 2015, 3:35 am
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Maybe we should just leave it at 7, it's not a biggie.
Mar 1, 2015, 5:17 am
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It's 9 in Finland as well... I'd imagine the Devs put it down to 7 for balance reasons, and the cats should have died at least twice growing up in the dungeons.
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