Finally a regular victory! Now about the others...

Mar 13, 2012, 10:47 am
Joined: Jun 11, 2009
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Hey everyone! Well, during the weekend I've finally managed to achieve a Freedom ending, finishing off Elpuri like a boss and returning it to Petrus. I've turned all my limbs into phoenix feather, so some may not respect the win that much, but considering how many games I've played I'm happy to have a win at all. Now I'm wondering how I can get to the next level and achieve one of the better endings - and possibly do so with only some or no artificial limbs. I have that training guide about training natural limbs, so that's no problem, but there's also the question of what's needed for the wins.

During experiments with the WM, I've noticed there is a huge number of crazy mages beyond that portal on Elpuri's level, zapping me and teleporting away my stuff. How do I deal with them teleporting away all my equipment?

How tough is Oree? Does a character which can just kill Elpuri need to improve a lot still?

For the Avatar of Chaos and High Priest endings, do I need to get the GEF shirt? Also, how should one kill Petrus? One character of mine that accidentally pissed off Attnam (and was otherwise very close to winning, though with Elpuri still standing) had a lot of good stuff on him and also four phoenix feather limbs, but was two-hitted by Inlux. (Couldn't even take out a wand of teleportation and get away.)

Thanks in advance.
Mar 14, 2012, 1:23 am
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Any victory gets my respect. I've beaten the game a few times, but never with natural limbs.

For the mage level, I like to have an enchanted cloak of electricity resistance. It helps to teleport yourself to *them* asap instead of waiting for them to come to you, that way you can slaughter them while they're all grouped together. As long as they don't teleport your cloak away, the rest of the equipment isn't crucial (by then your limbs should be strong enough to kill them easily without a weapon) and you can recover it once they are all dead.

As for Oree, my experience has been that if you make it to him, he's childsplay in comparison.

For taking on Petrus - it's been a while, but I think I had one victory over him, but it was in LIVAN which changes the balance of the game significantly. Basically though, time is everything - the longer you wait the stronger you get. Just wait until you think you're ready, then play for like 6 more months, then you'll actually be ready.
Mar 14, 2012, 1:30 am
Joined: Dec 3, 2007
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The mage room? Dear lord, you don't want to take that on. If you must however, high INT, ESP, buttloads of AGI, lots of electricity resistance and some backup equipment are recommended.

Oree is fairly tough, but not as much as you'd expect. I wouldn't say he's in a league of his own.

You don't need the GEF shirt for Chaos, just Petrus' left nut.

There's plenty of ways to kill anything. This. Is. IVAN!!!

Seriously though, most people overlook some pretty tough guys that are, though overshadowed by Petrus, still tough. Inlux and the master guard to be precise, but the smith shouldn't be underestimated either. I do recommend looking up Slob's victories. You could hunt around the greatboards forums for Fatty's wins too but he never went into much detail.
Mar 16, 2012, 2:14 am
Joined: Dec 11, 2008
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Need to take out Attnam huh?

Try mustard gas, and exploiting something to do with wands of door creation
(Or you could resurrect something to throw the gas grenades at).

Anyway that won't work in vanilla IVAN (no mustard gas grenades). So you could try just resurrecting a magic mushroom and letting it multiply like bacteria. Should be helpful in limiting access and hurting/killing some of the populace.
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