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Feb 26, 2013, 4:35 pm
#51
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Just checked the script. Orcs have infravision, skeletons do not.
Interestingly both have gas immunity, which I wouldn't have guessed for orcs. Xinroch also has added teleport control.

Even worse, necromancers have intrinsic infravision too. So the only things you're likely to fool with invisibility in GC6 are the zombies and kamikaze dwarves.
Feb 26, 2013, 4:56 pm
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i have 2 amulets of ESP and crazy favor with dulcis. i may try taming the frog. never thought of that. any reccomendations on screen capture software? i wish i could get a wand of mirror. i have a wand of cloning I have used twice, not sure if there is a third charge in there or not, and a scroll of charging. I hate to waste it on armor scrolls, but i suppose if it keeps me alive its worth it.
Feb 26, 2013, 6:22 pm
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Screen capture software for IVAN?
Well, you could try FRAPS or Camtasia Studio.
Feb 26, 2013, 6:24 pm
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4zb4 wrote
Just checked the script. Orcs have infravision, skeletons do not.
Interestingly both have gas immunity, which I wouldn't have guessed for orcs. Xinroch also has added teleport control.

Even worse, necromancers have intrinsic infravision too. So the only things you're likely to fool with invisibility in GC6 are the zombies and kamikaze dwarves.

yes, but there are so many zombies, it's really useful. Mostly because they're annoying and just get in the way, but I've also contracted leprosy so many times just from crossing from staircase to staircase in GC6
Feb 26, 2013, 6:25 pm
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You can check if wands have charges by dropping them in a shop. Dead wands sell for something like 36 gold, while any charges left will bring the price up. No need to accept the offer, just see what the shopkeeper will give you. I wanna say over 400 for wand of cloning. Even if it's dead, you can stand on a pile of four scrolls and apply the wand to get one last use. For wands of mirroring, you can wield an extra scroll in each hand for a total of six mirrored scrolls. I think wand of cloning ignores equipment though. Prt Sc button, between F12 and scroll lock, takes a screen grab. Open paint or gimp and paste to save a file.
Feb 26, 2013, 6:39 pm
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Stihdjia wrote
For wands of mirroring, you can wield an extra scroll in each hand for a total of six mirrored scrolls.

...why have I never done this?!
Also if we're talking about taking screenshots rather than video, FRAPS has a screenshot tool that just saves screenshots into a folder every time you press the corresponding button. No need to paste into paint or resize either. But that would involve getting FRAPS, if you're not so inclined.
Feb 26, 2013, 6:49 pm
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Should work for zapping too, but I never do it unless I've used all the charges. Feels a little like cheating to me...
Feb 26, 2013, 6:54 pm
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I personally have absolutely no problem with exploiting the hell out of everything I can in IVAN. Once I actually win the game I might try to finish it legitimately. My current playthroughs tend to involve artificial limbs, mustard gas, stacked mine traps, sabotaged sumo wrestlers and copious amounts of enchantments stolen from the library.
Feb 27, 2013, 1:04 pm
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I'm the same way. i use every trick i can find except cerumen-changing. that just seems too scummy. The wand of mirroring thing doesnt seem like a scum though, more like a feature.
Mar 7, 2013, 7:12 am
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do i get any extra benefit from sci-tallking with a creature more than once?
Mar 7, 2013, 11:28 am
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Depends on what you mean, yes you should chat with it until you're certain you've milked it for all it's worth, but for example if you sci-talk a giant dark frog, kill it, and resurrect it again it will not help you anymore (wasted some charges before I figured this one out)
Mar 7, 2013, 3:39 pm
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so if i chat with haathbar and get the increase, will continued chatting produce any more benefit?
Mar 7, 2013, 7:15 pm
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Not with Haathbar. You'll have to find someone else to chat up. A clone of Haathbar might work, though.
Mar 7, 2013, 7:55 pm
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you say not with haathbar....does that mean it would work with other monsters?
Mar 7, 2013, 8:53 pm
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I'm confused. So scitalks are only effective for a limited time per monster?
So technically I can only talk to a Mystic Dark Frog X amount of times before he becomes useless, but I can then go and tame another Mystic Dark Frog and get another X amount of beneficial scitalks?
Mar 7, 2013, 10:43 pm
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Batman: Yes, after doing sci-talk with Haathbar, you can go sci-talk with other monsters and keep gaining Int/Wis.

Azba: I *believe* that is correct but I haven't done a lot of sci-talking so I don't know for sure.
Mar 8, 2013, 2:09 am
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4zb4 wrote
I'm confused. So scitalks are only effective for a limited time per monster?
So technically I can only talk to a Mystic Dark Frog X amount of times before he becomes useless, but I can then go and tame another Mystic Dark Frog and get another X amount of beneficial scitalks?

That is correct. That applies to all NPCs and monsters.
I believe this is similar to scroll enchantments... at first you have a high chance of getting the bonus but the more you talk to them, the lower that chance gets, until it's basically 0.
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