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Posted by red_kangaroo, Jun 15, 2014 at 12:08 pm

Official IVAN Continuation thread in forum Other Coding

4zb4 wrote

(...) set spawn of teleportation items?

If that was to be on the enner level, in what way should we include it? Except for a simple guaranteed SoT, it could be something like the following:

Guaranteed Sophos temple. Easy to get teleported, not so easly to land where you need.
Guaranteed Infuscor temple. I like this one, because you'll eventually get both telecontrol and SoTs. On the other hand, you have to be chaotic.
Some blink dogs. There are nearly always some SoT in the library or you can find a wand, and killing the blink dogs would give you enoguh control to traverse the river safely.
Wand of teleportation, but I'd e.g. spawn in inside of wall rather than simply letting it lie around. You can find it and dig it out, but it's not free WoT for everyone.
Instead of teleportation, a room full of magic mashrooms. You will get levitation eventually. Going back from below is another question.

What do you think, should there be something like that? Or simply that bridge, maybe a bridge with enner always on it?

That golem kicking you over the water is hilarious, though not scriptable, so out of my reach.

Posted by red_kangaroo, Jun 14, 2014 at 4:12 am

Official IVAN Continuation thread in forum Other Coding

Pent wrote

I tried the script out, and everything worked fine, except the staircases: the staircases you placed with boundedrandom spawned in addition to the regular staircases, leaving four staircases in the level.

There was also a single-square-wide gravel floor "bridge" across the bottom of the river; I'm not sure if this was intentional or not.

OK, I fixed the staircases.

The bridge is not really intentional, but I'm not sure how to get rid of it - even when I don't require attachable stairs, the level generation goes nuts when I prevent it from spawning any tunnel between the two parts of the dungeon floor. With the bridge here, everything is OK except for the bridge. Without the bridge (I blocked it by forcing a water tile) the level generator sometimes forgets to genrate some tunnels, resulting in walled of rooms or doors leading to nowhere. The game simply doesn't like separated areas.

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Level ENNER_BEAST_LEVEL;
  {
    LevelMessage = "You hear a wailing scream in the distance. An enner beast must dwell here!";
    IgnoreDefaultSpecialSquares = true;
    Size = 60, 30;
    Items = 35:70;

    Room
    {
      Pos = 25,1;
      Size = 10,27;
	Type = ROOM_NORMAL;
	WallSquare = WATER liquidterrain(UNDERGROUND_LAKE), 0;
	FloorSquare = WATER liquidterrain(UNDERGROUND_LAKE), 0;
	GenerateDoor = false;
	AllowLockedDoors = false;
      AllowBoobyTrappedDoors = false;
      GenerateLanterns = false;
	GenerateFountains = false;
	GenerateTunnel = true;
	AltarPossible = false;

 	Square, Pos 0, -1;
      {
        OTerrain = 0;
      }
	Square, Pos 1, -1;
      {
        OTerrain = 0;
      }
	Square, Pos 2, -1;
      {
        OTerrain = 0;
      }
	Square, Pos 3, -1;
      {
        OTerrain = 0;
      }
	Square, Pos 4, -1;
      {
        OTerrain = 0;
      }
	Square, Pos 5, -1;
      {
        OTerrain = 0;
      }
	Square, Pos 2, 28;
      {
        OTerrain = 0;
      }
	Square, Pos 3, 28;
      {
        OTerrain = 0;
      }
	Square, Pos 4, 28;
      {
        OTerrain = 0;
      }
	Square, Pos 5, 28;
      {
        OTerrain = 0;
      }
	Square, Pos 6, 28;
      {
        OTerrain = 0;
      }
		
	GTerrainMap
      {
        Pos = 0,-1;
        Size = 10,30;
        Types
        {
        # = WATER liquidterrain(UNDERGROUND_LAKE);
	  _ = GRAVEL solidterrain(GROUND);
        }
      }
      {
    			#####_____
			_#####____
			__#####___
			___#####__
			___#####__
			___#####__
			__#####___
			_#####____
			_#####____
			__#####___
			__#####___
			___#####__
			___#####__
			____#####_
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			____#####_
			___#####__
			___#####__
			___#####__
			____#####_
			____#####_
			___#####__
			___#####__
			___#####__
			__#####___	  	
      }

	Square, Pos 5, 27;
    	{
      Character = ennerbeast;
    	}

    }

  
    Square, Random;
    {
      Items == mine(BIG_MINE) { Team = MONSTER_TEAM; IsActive = true; }
    }

    Square, Random;
    {
      Items == METEORIC_STEEL beartrap { Team = MONSTER_TEAM; IsActive = true; }
      Times = 2:6;
    }

    Square, Random NOT_WALKABLE|NOT_IN_ROOM;
    {
      Items == stone;
      Times = 25:50;
    }

    Square, BoundedRandom 2, 2, 20, 28, HAS_NO_OTERRAIN;
    {
      OTerrain = stairs(STAIRS_UP);
      EntryIndex = STAIRS_UP;
    }

     Square, BoundedRandom 38, 2, 58, 28, HAS_NO_OTERRAIN;
    {
      OTerrain = stairs(STAIRS_DOWN);
      EntryIndex = STAIRS_DOWN;
     }


   Square, Random;
    {
      Items == bone;
      Times = 20;
    }

    Square, Random;
    {
      Items == skull;
      Times = 5;
    }

  }

Posted by red_kangaroo, Jun 13, 2014 at 2:35 pm

Official IVAN Continuation thread in forum Other Coding

Ha hah! It works (more or less).

SPOILER ALERT. Click here to see text.

Level ENNER_BEAST_LEVEL;
  {
    LevelMessage = "You hear a wailing scream in the distance. An enner beast must dwell in the level!";
    IgnoreDefaultSpecialSquares = false;
    Size = 60, 30;
    Items = 35:70;

    Room
    {
      Pos = 25,1;
      Size = 10,27;
	Type = ROOM_NORMAL;
	WallSquare = WATER liquidterrain(UNDERGROUND_LAKE), 0;
	FloorSquare = WATER liquidterrain(UNDERGROUND_LAKE), 0;
	GenerateDoor = false;
	AllowLockedDoors = false;
      AllowBoobyTrappedDoors = false;
      GenerateLanterns = false;
	GenerateFountains = false;
	AltarPossible = false;

 	Square, Pos 0, -1;
      {
        OTerrain = 0;
      }
	Square, Pos 1, -1;
      {
        OTerrain = 0;
      }
	Square, Pos 2, -1;
      {
        OTerrain = 0;
      }
	Square, Pos 3, -1;
      {
        OTerrain = 0;
      }
	Square, Pos 4, -1;
      {
        OTerrain = 0;
      }
	Square, Pos 2, 28;
      {
        OTerrain = 0;
      }
	Square, Pos 3, 28;
      {
        OTerrain = 0;
      }
	Square, Pos 4, 28;
      {
        OTerrain = 0;
      }
	Square, Pos 5, 28;
      {
        OTerrain = 0;
      }
	Square, Pos 6, 28;
      {
        OTerrain = 0;
      }

	GTerrainMap
      {
        Pos = 0,-1;
        Size = 10,30;
        Types
        {
        # = WATER liquidterrain(UNDERGROUND_LAKE);
	  _ = GRAVEL solidterrain(GROUND);
        }
      }
      {
    			#####_____
			_#####____
			__#####___
			___#####__
			___#####__
			___#####__
			__#####___
			_#####____
			_#####____
			__#####___
			__#####___
			___#####__
			___#####__
			____#####_
			_____#####
			_____#####
			_____#####
			_____#####
			_____#####
			_____#####
			____#####_
			___#####__
			___#####__
			___#####__
			____#####_
			____#####_
			___#####__
			___#####__
			___#####__
			__#####___	  	
      }

	Square, Random;
    	{
      Character = ennerbeast;
    	}

    }

    Square, Random;
    {
      Items == mine(BIG_MINE) { Team = MONSTER_TEAM; IsActive = true; }
    }

    Square, Random;
    {
      Items == METEORIC_STEEL beartrap { Team = MONSTER_TEAM; IsActive = true; }
      Times = 2:6;
    }

    Square, Random NOT_WALKABLE|NOT_IN_ROOM;
    {
      Items == stone;
      Times = 25:50;
    }

    Square, BoundedRandom 2, 2, 20, 28, HAS_NO_OTERRAIN;
    {
      OTerrain = stairs(STAIRS_UP);
      EntryIndex = STAIRS_UP;
      AttachRequired = true;
    }

    Square, BoundedRandom 38, 2, 58, 28, HAS_NO_OTERRAIN;
    {
      OTerrain = stairs(STAIRS_DOWN);
      EntryIndex = STAIRS_DOWN;
      AttachRequired = true;
    }

    Square, Random;
    {
      Items == bone;
      Times = 20;
    }

    Square, Random;
    {
      Items == skull;
      Times = 5;
    }

  }

The monsters generate once again - it's just that I was finding too much corpses and too little living ones.

The river is four tiles wide, so yeah, it could help you.

4zb4 wrote

As for "something is broken" - what exactly is broken? Does the level not render correctly (tiles where they shouldn't be?) Does IVAN not even start and drop an error message? Something else?

Sorry.

The problem I had was with Fatal Error: Unknown exception thrown. However, I somehow managed to get rid of it (not sure how).

And thanks Warheck, that was just the next problem after the crashes.

So right now, the level should have upstairs to the right, downstairs to the left and a big room with a river crossing the level in the middle, with the enner somewhere around.

Posted by red_kangaroo, Jun 13, 2014 at 1:34 pm

Flames in forum IVAN Development

Ernomouse wrote

We need a new special wand... Stick of Armageddon, which lights EVERYTHING on fire when applied. =D Or something like that.

I imagine it would be enough to zap a wand of fireballs. Once again, WoF will prove to be the most dangerous wand ever!

Posted by red_kangaroo, Jun 13, 2014 at 6:18 am

Official IVAN Continuation thread in forum Other Coding

Could anyone help me, please?

I was thinking about making some of the special levels in GC more special and started to mess with enner level. The changes I tried to make:

There is a river in the middle of the level, with the stairs on the opposite sides. This means that 1) it makes sense why the enner with his fondness for fishing settled in there and 2) it presents unique challenge for the player, as he has to traverse it in some way. Because of guaranteed belt of levitation and the possibility of teleport, it is not a game stopper, as well.
There are no monsters spawned on the level. The only thing it accomplished was a large number of corpses all around - and really, even dumb monsters would become cautious about the enner over time, as everything around would be dying.
There are some ghosts on the level, as they are unaffected by the screams and to make up for the lack of other monsters.

I came up with the following:

SPOILER ALERT. Click here to see text.

Level ENNER_BEAST_LEVEL;
  {
    LevelMessage = "You hear a wailing scream in the distance. An enner beast must dwell in the level!";
    IgnoreDefaultSpecialSquares = false;
    Size = 60, 30;
    Items = 35:70;
    GenerateMonsters = false;
    CanGenerateBone = false;

    Room
    {
      Pos = 25,1;
      Size = 1,1;
	Type = ROOM_NORMAL;
	WallSquare = WATER liquidterrain(UNDERGROUND_LAKE), 0;
	GenerateDoor = false;
	AllowLockedDoors = false;
      AllowBoobyTrappedDoors = false;
      GenerateLanterns = false;
	GenerateFountains = false;
	AltarPossible = false;
	Flags = 0;

	GTerrainMap
      {
        Pos = 0,-1;
        Size = 10,30;
        Types
        {
        # = WATER liquidterrain(UNDERGROUND_LAKE);
        }
      }
      {
    			#####.....
			.#####....
			..#####...
			...#####..
			...#####..
			...#####..
			..#####...
			.#####....
			.#####....
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			...#####..
			....#####.
			.....#####
			.....#####
			.....#####
			.....#####
			.....#####
			.....#####
			....#####.
			...#####..
			...#####..
			...#####..
			....#####.
			....#####.
			...#####..
			...#####..
			...#####..
			..#####...	  	
      }

	Square, Random;
    	{
      Character = ennerbeast;
    	}

    }

    Square, Random;
    {
      Items == mine(BIG_MINE) { Team = MONSTER_TEAM; IsActive = true; }
    }

    Square, Random;
    {
      Items == METEORIC_STEEL beartrap { Team = MONSTER_TEAM; IsActive = true; }
      Times = 2:6;
    }

    Square, Random NOT_WALKABLE|NOT_IN_ROOM;
    {
      Items == stone;
      Times = 25:50;
    }

    Square, BoundedRandom 2, 2, 20, 28, HAS_NO_OTERRAIN;
    {
      OTerrain = stairs(STAIRS_UP);
      EntryIndex = STAIRS_UP;
      AttachRequired = true;
    }

    Square, BoundedRandom 38, 2, 58, 28, HAS_NO_OTERRAIN;
    {
      OTerrain = stairs(STAIRS_DOWN);
      EntryIndex = STAIRS_DOWN;
      AttachRequired = true;
    }

    Square, Random;
    {
      Items == bone;
      Times = 20;
    }

    Square, Random;
    {
      Items == skull;
      Times = 5;
    }

    Square, Random NOT_IN_ROOM;
    {
      Character = ghost;
	Times = 15;
    }

 }

However, something is broken and I cannot find out what.

Would someone be so nice and tell me what's wrong?

And by the way, do you think it is worth putting into 0.51?

Posted by red_kangaroo, Jun 6, 2014 at 4:16 pm

Game Balance in forum IVAN Development

Batman? wrote

I would also suggest coming up with a use for the aforementioned sticks

Take a stick and a stone, combine them into an arrow, shoot it with a bow.

Posted by red_kangaroo, Jun 5, 2014 at 9:53 am

Ideas in forum Suggestions and Ideas

I pretty much like the way they are in NetHack:

http://nethack.wikia.com/wiki/Cockatrice

Quote

Generally considered to be a real nuisance, the cockatrice, is one of the more complex creatures in the game, and often the source of many YASDs. It can turn you to stone instantaneously if you touch it (or even its corpse) with your bare hands. If, however, you are wearing gloves, you can pick its corpse up and wield it as a weapon, turning enemies to stone instantaneously.

And after all, pecking/biting does mean they have to touch you.

For me, the petrifying gaze thing is more for Medusa than cockatrice, but that's mainly because of hours of NetHack.

Still, it would be cool if her peck wasn't instakill here, the material changing possibility sounds very interesting and would differ nicely from all other games I know.

Posted by red_kangaroo, Jun 5, 2014 at 9:45 am

Game Balance in forum IVAN Development

EireMadHatter wrote

Weapon(W) AStr + weapon

(K)ick and (P)unch are nice, but for the weapons and such and for easiest interface, (A)ttack command would be better I think - you can select with what weapon/item and where to, even if you attacked thin air (this way, you could also attack your pet).

Also, chests should be possible to hack into wood sticks with your trusty axe.

Posted by red_kangaroo, Jun 5, 2014 at 2:49 am

Game Balance in forum IVAN Development

Zayre wrote

I approve of shield bashing. Perhaps it could function replace the kick, when you have shields equipped.

Probably not entirely, as you can kick down doors, but bashing them down with your whield sounds... strange.

I'd leave kicking as it is and simply add bashing as another attack, with the shield of bashing being simply an upgrade for those who forego two Neer Se-ulbs.

Posted by red_kangaroo, Jun 4, 2014 at 10:16 am

Ideas in forum Suggestions and Ideas

Thanks!

Yeah, well, you can always ask any priest for a healing and Warheck was talking about importing bare-hands doctors who are basically tameable healers you can bring along. Maybe not against parasites, but I'd also be for adding unicorn horn, which could be applied for curing, with recharge time similar to other horns/LoC.

And something not so deadly... What about some more diseases? (Another long list.

)

Blood Sickness

You can contract it from drinking any kind of blood (including troll blood) or from komodo dragon bite (yeah, they are cool).
Temporarily stops your natural healing (you do not regain HP).

Petrification

Cockatrices?
Not lethal as in NetHack, the body part hit by cockatrice is rather simply socm'd into some stone.
As you cannot heal and have terrible stats after the change, it definitely is a bad 'disease'. And it presents the concept of socming your own limbs to new players (if there are any).

Sliming

Give it to one of the slimes to distinguish them?
After short time, you are permanently polymorphed into a mommo slime.
Polymorph into anything but slime to break the curse/disease - say you are a slime, manage to eat (digest with your acidic body?) a mutant corpse and poly into mistress. You will eventually revert to human form and slimify no more (until infected again, that is).

Sores

You cannot wear body armor, it itches too much!

Narcolepsy

Periodical short-time unconsciousness. Nothing less, nothing more.

Nausea

Most likely from eating spoiled food, maybe sometimes from ommel stuff and being near disgusting monsters?
You cannot eat - if you try, you will vomit instead.

Diarrhea

You lose nutrition extremely quickly.

IBS

You fart time to time.