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Posted by vasiliy, Jan 14 at 2:30 pm
that's what we need SQL queries for! of course, while writing the converter, i hit crash bug in my Oberon compiler. i HAET chain bug explosion!
Posted by vasiliy, Jan 14 at 3:36 am
Yancakes wrote
Trying it now- I use Windows 11. Works so far. I tried to change the resolution but that made it crash but the magnification function works fine.
hm. it should not crash (obviously , just change the resolution on restart. but tbh, that part wasn't really tested: i set the resolution once, and never touched it again. thank you, i'll take a look!

Yancakes wrote
I hadn't realized how much I'd gotten used to some of the QOL stuff in the newer IVAN release
like what? maybe i'll eventually port them too. just throw all your wishes and crazy ideas into me, and something will stick.

Yancakes wrote
but other than that I'm really loving all the popups telling me what weapon is on the ground, how it compares to my current weapon, all the colour coding etc.
thank you! the colors should be configurable, but… k8ivan has only one active user so far, and he never complained.

Yancakes wrote
Are there plans to have pop-ups showing what items are on the ground when there's a stack as well?
you mean the whole stack, not just comparisons? yes, i will prolly do it later.

the first version of item comparison was writing messages into log window, and i didn't want to clutter the log, so i implemented only the most necessary stats. when i switched to popups, i basically kept the same code, because i wasn't sure if it will work at all, and if i will like it or not. and then i simply forgot to improve it. so i will definitely add other things there.


Yancakes wrote
Oh one thing I've noticed about the 2021 IVAN is that I've always felt leprosy was REALLY easy to contract- almost every run going through the UT I had to go back to the doctor at least once to get healed.
i remember that this was the problem in some older IVAN versions too. it was either fixed in the mainline, or in some fork from which i inherited it.

thank you for pointing that! i definitely don't want leprosy to be that easy to get. it is mostly just an annoyance (run back, return, run back, return), and it doesn't feel like something interesting if it happens too often. you get used to it, and it's harder to miss it accidentally. so i'm with you here.

Yancakes wrote
I think your complaints about the newer version are legit, but I also am aware that it was a huge update that was never properly balanced.
eh… it is really hard to balance such huge and mostly random game as IVAN, especially considering that the game basically a black box. we can change some values here and there, but it is not easy to predict the outcome. and after a lot of playing you got used to it, and may honestly think that it is perfectly balanced.

so i'm not blaming the team for that. just wrote some of my thoughts as somebody who missed almost a decade of updates. sadly, IVAN lacks proper tools (actually, any tools to work with its databases, and this makes everything really hard and tedious. like, if you want to add a new material, you also have to go through most items, adding new material configs, tweaking the probabilities, and such. it quickly gets out of control.

i am trying to convert scripts to SQLite database now, just to see how it goes. if i'll ever succeed, it would be much easier both to query, and to change things. but i need to create a good DB schema for that… and i already redesigned the schema like dozen times.
Posted by vasiliy, Jan 13 at 7:39 pm
and a side note: you may noticed the SQLite amalgamation in source archive, and wonder what the hell it is doing there? well, i have the answer! it is to make the code big… oops. wrong one. i actually plan to store hiscores in sqlite database. and not only hiscores, but all things the game shows you when you're dead: message history, detiled kill statistics, and so on. hey, it's important info (which nobody needs, of course). and instead of inventing my own storage format for it, i'd better use SQLite. tbh, i want save games to be SQLite databases too, but this is too much work. maybe someday…

to be even more honest, i want EVERYTHING to be stored in SQLite database. imagine how easier it would be to manage materials, items and such if you can use SQL queries to find various things about them? you want to see the hardening chain? ok, here's SQL query for ya. you want to know which items can use the given material? SQL query to the rescue! the possibilities are infinite.

i will prolly experiment with converting scripts to SQLite db. let's see how far i could take it.
Posted by vasiliy, Jan 13 at 5:04 pm
i haven't looked at dungeon changes in comm. fork yet, only to new materials, and to some new items. comparing and porting those things is mostly mechanical work, after all. but for dungeons i prolly need to write some tool to visualise them, because it is hard to build a mental picture of a dungeon from textual description (especially with multilayered special room maps).

tbh, i always wanted to write a kind of "visual dungeon builder" (and visual item/material editor too). maybe i'll do it this time instead of looking at walls of script text.


i fully agree that more materials is more fun, and edible golems are really fun too. but i prolly need to introduce "chance to make a golem" instead of simply "golem allowed" boolean. this way we can both have our lunch and eat it too.

i decided to not revert the changes, and try to think out the way to incorporate them instead, 'cause i really love all new things added.


the biggest problem is that i don't understand how the game calculates danger levels and spawn chances, so i prefer to not touch that code. i have a very rough idea of it, but as this is the core of the game, any change there may break everything. and i won't be able to tell if this is due to my changes in the code, or due to tweaking some probabilities, or if this is simply a bug i introduced.

that is, i tried the lazy route, and failed. now i'll try it for real.


still, the problem with SoHM needs to be solved too. SoHM basically skips materials with Int requirement much lower than the player's Int, but i feel that it needs some rebalancing too. it currently simply makes skips gradually harder with each step. maybe it should look not only on the number of steps, but on Int requirement difference too, to easily skip various trash materials… dunno, i need to write a "material chain visualiser" first, to see all new chains, and then try several approaches to find a good one.
Posted by vasiliy, Jan 13 at 3:08 pm
ok, i'll try to forbid golems from weak materials first. this should prevent low-tier golems spawns in UT, and should not affect the game. i mean, who would want to create a cheese golem anyway, wasting the scroll on it? it is fun, of course, but this is "one-time fun", doesn't worth ruining the game.
Posted by vasiliy, Jan 13 at 1:47 pm
copypasted most new materials and liquids from the comm fork… and i'm not sure if i like it. maybe it's simply because i used to the old set, and confused by the new things (and i really do), but maybe it's because there is too much almost similar things. tbh, the game starting to look filled with… well, fillers: a lot of "almost the same" items, differs in almost nothing, creating illusion of rich content without the real content itself.

besides, the game started generating CROWDS of golems in UT1. most new materials are ok for golems, and there are many weak golem possibilities… and i DEFINITELY don't like it. it feels like a very different game, which only looks like I.V.A.N. i mean, hordes of golems on UT2? 'cmon! (actually, even on UT1.) seeing golem for the first time should be terrifying. in the previous versions golems sometimes spawns in UT, but they were quite rare, and each encounter was terrifying. now it is almost trivial: "eh, another golem. get out of my way, you stupid thing!"

for the time being i will prolly revert all changes. or block new content from appearing in the game: no golems for new materials, no item config extensions… and no way to harden into new things too. this is because hardening is more-or-less balanced around current material chains. with new materials there, everything need to be rebalanced: materal probabilities in items, probabilities of SoHMs, and so on.

nope. i prolly revert most added things. i appreciate all the hard work community put into this new content, and it is prolly my fault trying to simply dump it in k8ivan. i hoped that it would work… but no. it simply killing the game.

i believe that comm. fork was gradually rebalanced, so new content works there. i mean, adding new materials to weapons, for example. it means that the game has wider choice of things to spawn, and doesn't have to resort to golems. without such balancing adding dozens of new materials simply destroys everything.

so i think that i will have to rework new dungeons and characters, replacing new comm. materials with ones already in the game.

i prolly need to play more of comm. fork games too, to see if it has the same feel.
Posted by vasiliy, Jan 12 at 3:14 pm
in the end of the day… our corporation is always happy to serve our customers! here is win32 preview version some of our customers asked for. don't forget to visit our store to buy skins and shiny new DLCs!

SPOILER ALERT. Click here to see text.
as i don't have windows, this is cross-compiled, and tested (just a little) with Wine. i don't know if it will work on the real system, sorry. the archive includes current source code snapshot, and executable binary.

note that this is very WIP: expect crashes, broken quests, and various other weird things. also, community content is not ported yet.

i will upload new builds when i see fit.


upd: quickfix for one crash (wrong config value in "define.dat", lol).
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Posted by vasiliy, Jan 11 at 8:28 pm
not yet, sorry. yet i am planning to create win builds when the thing stabilizes a little. for now it works, but crashes frequently (even for I.V.A.N. standards), due to all that new code i added.

just keep an eye on this topic, and you eventually will be able to try it. once i consider it "ready for pre-beta", i plan to public win builds more-or-less regularily (until i decide to make another 7-year pause .
Posted by vasiliy, Jan 11 at 6:11 pm
if you are tracking my git repository, please, re-clone it from the scratch. i switched to Fossil, and git repo is just a mirror now. essentially, git repo was recreated from scratch using fossil export command, and all commit hashes were changed. this is one-time inconvenience, and you can keep tracking the repo as usual after re-cloning. sorry for the inconvenience! but i prefer Fossil these days, and cannot stand using git anymore.
Posted by vasiliy, Jan 11 at 1:50 pm
i know that everybody love screenshots. so here's another one: proof of concept of proportional font. not everything fixed yet (log window still wraps at the fixed char, lol — i forgot to change it), but the lists seems to be usable. i will prolly not leave this as option (because of too much conditional checks), and will simply use proportional fonts everywhere. let's stop pretending that we are not in graphics mode!

@red_kangaroo: thank you! (and people who actually wrote those descriptions, of course!) implementing descriptions this way is quite easy. i added one method to `felist` — `AddHelpToLastEntry()`, and `Help` field to the entry struct itself. then added code in equipment and inventory list creation methods to actually add help. and then simply do word-wrapping and rendering after drawing the list page.

there is one gotcha, though: you have to call `BackGround.FastBlit(Buffer);` in `felistraw()` to erase previous list contents. in the Good Old Days I.V.A.N. authors tried to avoid excessive redrawing, but meh… we can get away with "just redraw everything on each frame!" these days.


p.s.: sorry, i don't have github account (and generally never send patches to projects with cocs), so i'll resort to lengthy descriptions in the hope that somebody will dive into my code and write something similar to the comm fork.

and of course i am here to try and answer any questions about the code (or at least give some clues). not that i know the code well, though, so most answers will prolly be "your princess is in another castle. also, you are killed by a hedgehog.", but why don't try anyway?