Speaking of which, we could make soft gauntlets be called "gloves" and soft boots "shoes", just for the extra flavor. These are like 2 lines in script files, AFAIK.

This was my line of thinking. Early game, you have to worry about carrying weight quite a bit, so low metal chain and (hard) leather armor would both have its pros and cons. Later, you would have access to both high-end soft armors and (rebalanced) plate, so chain should still not be OP / always the best choice.

I'm not sure how well would it actually work, though.


If we change the way of how stat penalties are calculated rather than adjusting flexibility of materials, that should only affect armors, shouldn't it? Plus soft armors already have next to no stat penalty, so the effect on them would hopefully not be dramatic.

I would try to avoid creating a new item type. Someone would then SoCM armor balanced for soft materials into metal or vice versa and we're right at the beginning.

I think the stat penalties are the most off-putting on all stiff armors. With no (for chain) or much lower (for plate) penalties, I think I could cope with the high weight and actually use metal armor. Meteoric steel armor could then be really nice with Loricatus.

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Based on this thread and the discussion above, plus my own experience, metal armor really isn't that good. It's heavy, has crippling stat penalties and its AV is nearly matched by good enough soft armor.

I don't think this should be the case. While it's definitely good to have some sub-par or questionable choices, double-edged, even useless items, I don't think it's good to shoehorn the player to only one type of armor. We have so many cool and interesting metals, why don't we make them interesting to use as well?

So, what would you say if we (some or all of below):

* decreased the penalties from stiff armor (not cloaks),
* increased AV bonuses of stiff armor (bulky and heavy, but very protective),
* decreased AV bonuses of soft armor (it's already too good anyway, also RE: GEF limbs),
* made AoGH somewhat better (it's already tradeoff enough to get the increase in danger level, making it also heavy and with lower AV is a bit of an overkill; plus it's pretty rare).

Thoughts?

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Pray to gods or pay to priests. Also troll blood (and healing liquid) can regrow your limbs.


Mostly through higher LStr. You can train your LStr by walking around burdened, or artificially through boots of strength. You can also wear (and enchant) a belt of carrying.


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Unfortunately, for now you can only dip your sword into vodka ('!' command) and make your enemies drunk through your attacks.


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Joking aside, don't fight them bare-handed, use any gauntlets or weapon (any weapon at all), as those will stop their spines from destroying your arms. They still can kick your ass, but you will take less damage and thus have much better chance of survival.

We have this. JoKe's guide is very well written, IMO.

Well, value would probably not be measured in grams.

But wands are very valuable, their effects can be a life saver. Just drop whatever you won't be using right then next to stairs, so you can return for it later when needed and don't need to remeber where you left it.

In my last game, I happened to have the minefield, Merka and a magic mushroom infestation on the same level... Fun times.

Another thing that could greatly benefit from knockback improvements would be boots of kicking. Right now I feel they are rather underwhelming. If they added to the distance of knockback of your kicks, they could be much more interesting even as an auxiliary tool - imagine fighting with normal weapons, but kicking boots on for an occasional kick to send your enemy down the hallway.

I would also love to have the chance and power of the knockback be slightly improved by kicking boots alone, then added to by LStr and enchantment of the boots. If you invested enough enchantment scrolls (like +10 boots), you could kick enemies over the level.

I don't think we need another dungeon similar to UT. We already have UT and "bug underwater tunnel dungeon" gets old quickly. Plus if we want to have visitable locations on more continents (and I hope we will one day) that would require many and many UT-esque dungeons, which would increase the amount of loot and/or tedium of getting from one place to another.

I'd like to see a portal network connecting various continents. You could find and onld portal hub on Attnamese continent, and then you haev to do some short quests for each portal to open. Then, however, you can easily jump between continents.

This a) does not increase the amount of loot generated nor b) does it bring boring travelling through countless underwater dungeons from continent to contient. It does c) allow for quick and easy travel to mroe interesting locations once you clear the initial roadblock (the quest), thus d) giving space for locations on many continents, while allowing for pacing of the game (through the quests), so you can't skip to some high-loot end-game area easily, and without the need for many insignificant side-dungeons.