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Posted by Ernomouse, Sep 20, 2014 at 4:02 am
=D I had forgotten about him! Oh, good times.
Posted by Ernomouse, Sep 16, 2014 at 4:21 pm
But... Can you make it so that it only happens twice? It'd be weird to lose the 3rd nut.
Posted by Ernomouse, Sep 14, 2014 at 9:42 am
=P And maybe Legifer or some other badass deity could grow you some balls if you pray for them... =D
Posted by Ernomouse, Sep 9, 2014 at 4:11 pm
Somagu, you have a fair point, which is partly what I tried to raise in my post. Pardon my bad output, I've added one important word there.

The things I listed in the Ideas thread are the result of a frantic one minute brainstorm. They are IDEAS I wanted to share for everyones benefit, and some of them were already mentioned in the shoutbox. They are not something that are going to be implemented into IVAN as-is, they are ideas to be refined or discarded as the coders feel.

As I said in the shoutbox, I like the idea of 'realistic' female warriors. I like realism in any game I play. I enjoy my flight sims as realistic as they come. I enjoy my space adventures with Newtonian physics. My chosen FPS games will kill me with one bullet, and in my most played strategy games, well, at least my tanks don't have hit points. I am also appalled in the amount of sexism and misogyny (had to go to an online dictionary to make sure I got the word right) in games and the internet, and in our society.

You are right in that a 'realistic' female PC wouldn't fit to IVAN as it is now. I added the second point on my list for just that reason. The whole game needs to follow one style, so either we pick the existing one or modify the whole game accordingly. The new dews need to think this out before they do stuff.

Also, the boobs of a mistress are what, four pixels? What they look like won't make any kind of difference. The only thing that does is that IF the PC's sex makes a difference, the player HAS to know. Pent, it is true that forcing or denying certain kind of behavior based on PC's sex is misogyny, it is also, in our culture and world and even more so in IVAN's, realism. As long as the average girl sees herself weaker as the average boy, that generally is true. Even if genes didn't pay any role the culture and our norms certainly do.

I also like the idea that the player can take the same setting and take two completely different routes and still achieve the same outcome. This is the best kind of equality. The old RPG genre classes are a good example of this (actually, a really bad one), you have to take a very different approach to the game with a warrior compared to a wizard. Having the gender affect the game has the potential to add a nice fresh strategic level to the game, especially if you could swap between the two (or three) genders freely.

So anyway, yes, I get exited about stuff relatively easily, and my ideas are not always up for a closer inspection. So by all means, inspect them, and shoot them down if you spot a flaw - that's how I learn, and we get the best out of our small community. Or at least that's how you get me to think my own ideas through and explain them better...
Posted by Ernomouse, Sep 9, 2014 at 3:44 pm
From Ideas thread:

Ernomouse wrote
Gender -based ideas from the shoutbox and my magnificent mind:

- If we don't want misogyny in IVAN
* We might have to review the existing female characters as well (priestess of Silva, angels (?), mistresses, Sherarax...)
* Distinguishing sex when wearing armor becomes difficult -> long hair for woman PC should be visible under helmets

- Spells, god effects etc. to change sex during the game
* 3rd genderless gender, eunuch. Cannot be cured, severely limiting, hard to obtain, needed for just one thing to make it worthwhile. Maybe a special victory

- I'm thinking sex should change the game in more ways than appearance
* Female characters might train different stats better than male, for example.
* NPC's could react differently to male and female characters
* A female only dungeon of misogyny

EDIT: Added an important word, 'if'...

Somagu wrote
No. No no no. If we all decide that the females are "in poor taste" and need give them more modest clothes, or god forbid spare the women and children from dismemberment, then I'm leaving the community forever. IVAN doesn't need the only thing it takes seriously to be that.

For the record.

Pent wrote
Wouldn't distinguishing sex below full body armor only serve to walk the line of misogyny anyways? Female PCs are fine, but it should consist solely of separate player sprites, with no other major changes (only pronouns used by NPCs and such, maybe some alternate dialog).

In any case I'm completely with Somagu.

Somagu wrote
To clarify a bit, I'm not saying the female armors should be skimpy or fantasy-like, as it were. (Not that I would mind, but that's completely besides the point) I wouldn't have said anything to begin with, but most of the NPCs you mentioned were the ones with skimpy clothes.

IVAN is already full of inappropriate humor, but the even more pressing thing to me here is that it all makes sense in context. "Fixing" the problem by giving them more modest clothes seems poorly thought through, and more like being sensible for the sake of making the game more sensible, rather than addressing a serious issue. The game is obviously tongue firmly in cheek, and I think changing the mistresses makes for an odd and out-of-place moment of mixed intentions. The next thing we know, the banana grower encourager does not whip people anymore because somebody thinks it sends a racist message.

Hopefully, I've simply read too much into that little statement, but this is the way I feel about it, anyway.
Posted by Ernomouse, Sep 9, 2014 at 3:39 pm
OK. We're moving this conversation about genders to the thread 4zb4 made. It is here.
Posted by Ernomouse, Sep 9, 2014 at 3:45 am
Gender -based ideas from the shoutbox and my magnificent mind:

- If we don't want misogyny in IVAN
* We might have to review the existing female characters as well (priestess of Silva, angels (?), mistresses, Sherarax...)
* Distinguishing sex when wearing armor becomes difficult -> long hair for woman PC should be visible under helmets

- Spells, god effects etc. to change sex during the game
* 3rd genderless gender, eunuch. Cannot be cured, severely limiting, hard to obtain, needed for just one thing to make it worthwhile. Maybe a special victory

- I'm thinking sex should change the game in more ways than appearance
* Female characters might train different stats better than male, for example.
* NPC's could react differently to male and female characters
* A female only dungeon of misogyny

EDIT: Added an important word, 'if'...
Posted by Ernomouse, Aug 6, 2014 at 3:43 am
So, the second most dangerous enemy in IVAN has a weakness... Farts.
Posted by Ernomouse, Aug 1, 2014 at 7:41 pm
Lynslag means lightning strike in swedish.
Posted by Ernomouse, Jul 11, 2014 at 1:52 am
Beer, fork, clone, beer, beer, scalpel, beer, change, commit, beer, push, wake up, correct, beer, apologize, push again.